450ZX progress

Discussion in 'Member's Garage' started by Stillen, Nov 19, 2010.

  1. Stillen

    Stillen stillen

    After 31 years in Mechanical Engineering, I learnt a trick or 2
     
  2. Stillen

    Stillen stillen

    Alternator & air con pump

    I've worked out a way to install the alternator and a air con pump, but it does mean the alternator will run in the opposite direction

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    I pulled the alternator apart and had a good look inside.
    Electricially it will work running in either direction. The brushes are at a slight angle but I don,t think it should cause any problems.

    Mechanically the nut retaining the pulley is the wrong hand a will come undone. This shouldn't be to hard to fix, some Loctite or may be a locking device on the nut.

    There is a fan blade either side of the rotor, both identical so they should work in both directions. Only difference is that the air flow through the alternator will change direction, which should not be a problem

    Can anyone see any problems with this see up?
    And please no smart ass comments about my wood bracket
     
  3. Jinxed

    Jinxed Moderator

    its going to vibrate quite a bit hanging out that far id imagine, possibly enough to through the belt.....ignoring the wooden bracket, do you intend on further bracketing or a tensioner arm?
     
  4. ichizora

    ichizora Loud

    That's not a stock air con pump is it? Chris had a similar idea for running a supercharger backwards like your alt... I think it's a great idea as long as you use a couple of solid brackets.
     
  5. Vader

    Vader Just another guy

    Have you got your underbody splash guards? What will water do to it?
     
  6. rollin

    rollin First 9

    That is how the alternator is mounted on a Jaguar E type v12, they ran out of space and mounted it the other way, its a very substantial 5/16 steel brakcet they use. ive got pics on another camera if u want ill post them
     
  7. a2zed

    a2zed Guest

    You may wear the brushes quicker but otherwise it will function the same.
     
  8. Stillen

    Stillen stillen

    Picuters would be very useful

    Thanks
     
  9. Stillen

    Stillen stillen

    Working on a strong aluminium bracket so I don't have any vibration problems> Plus there will be an ajustable backet on top for tensioning
     
  10. gmbrezzo

    gmbrezzo Moderator

    Great build man.
    Been a while since I've seen a quality build like that.
    You could eat your dinner off those ports very clean.
    Keep up the great work.
    You WA guy sure know how to do it :)
     
  11. Stillen

    Stillen stillen

    Alternator and air con pump installed

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  12. Romonski

    Romonski And Justice For All

    nice clean install ! ;D
     
  13. ezzupturbo

    ezzupturbo JDMAutomotive

    i think gm have a reverse facing alt you might be able to use the fan off it so your not blowing hot air from your motor into the alt. just a thought
     
  14. WazTTed

    WazTTed Grease Monkey

    will you fit a radiator in there ? i wouldnt think that you would pass the pits with a reversed alternator. no engineer is going to sign off on that ... why bother with AC if your going for a full custom v8 install.. ditch the AC mount your alternator there
     
  15. MAX

    MAX Ex Zedder

    If it functions safely why not?
     
  16. Chrispy

    Chrispy Pretentious Upstart

    Agreed. I've seen much worse passed.
     
  17. Stillen

    Stillen stillen

    The radiator does fit

    I tried that before I fabricated the mounting bracket.

    I don't see any major engineering or safety issues with running the alternator backwards.

    The worst that could happen is that the pulley locknut could come off, but I used a high strength stud lock adhesive (Loctite) so it's unlikely to happen.

    The pulley its self can't fall off, as there is insufficient clearance between the alternator & engine and the mounting bracket is strong enough to tow the Queen Mary II around.
     
  18. Stillen

    Stillen stillen

    Consulting Engineer

    I finally organized a consulting engineer to come round today and inspect the mods I'm doing.

    All looked good.

    He did not see any major problems with the modifications, including the manual steering and the alternator running backwards.

    Next to do is:-
    1. Mount and connect up the steering rack.
    2. Fabricate the extractors
    3. Pull out the engine/gearbox and install the clutch and slave cylinder piping

    Just have to pull my finger out and get it finished
     
  19. ezzupturbo

    ezzupturbo JDMAutomotive

    Because its such a neat and tidy install you will find it much easer with the engineers.
     
  20. Stillen

    Stillen stillen

    Cold castable urathane

    If your going to do it, then do it right 1st time

    I'm looking casting my own rubber mounting bushes for the steering rack from cold castable urathane. As any one had any expriance using casable urathane for bushes?
     

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