Correct, if you are getting it tuned by a workshop you will not require the software. Although you will have to find a workshop that will do the tune as they will require the software to do it. There is a list of registered tuning shops on the nistune website.
The point of my question is.. If no one is buying the daughterboards, and there seems to be alot of people buying the software, whats the point of buying the software. Does everyone else have a Romulator or other type of Emulator. Either way Ill probably look at getting the PCB + Software + WBo2
How is that going to help ? You still need an emulator to tune with then burn a chip afterwards to put in your socketed ECU. Basically without the daughterboard or an emulator the software is next to useless. So either theres alot of people with emulators or theres lots of people who dont know what they are buying
that is true. but there is only 1 place up here that has the software(that the list on the nistune website says anyway). and they are really shit. the place i wana take it will need the software so i will need to get it aswell.
The software will work with just an emulator (ie no nistune board installed), but you will have no way of looking at the afr from the wide band in the same software. Correct me if im wrong anyone
Typical ZDUCTIV, he used to be cool then he got all minimalistic The wideband will plug directly into your laptop and will interface with the Nistune software.
so just to confirm, nistune software will work with an emulator (e.g. romulator) and will also pick up a wideband input if its on another serial port of your laptop
OK, details sent off to Nistune, I'll let everyone know the go when I hear. Had a look through the Widebands that are supported by Nistune and I have narrowed it down to the three I think are best. Dirt cheap DIY option: NAW_7S Fully assembled wideband controller with machined case DIY digital display kit included 60mm x 50mm controller dimensions Uses the lowcost Bosch LSU 4.2 Wideband oxygen sensor 0.01 Lambda 0-5v programmable Linear Voltage Output Simulated Narrowband output USB connectivity Free air calibration Onboard sensor temperature display Digital PID temperature controller Digital PID pump cell controller 60 day money back guarantee 6 month warranty Please note, this does not include the wideband sensor and the display has to be assembled. I don't really like this option at all. US$90.00 + post Tech Edge 2J1 Reads from λ = 0.61 (AFR = 9.0) to free-air. Within +/- 0.1 from AFR 11 to 17. Differential WBlin wideband 0-5 Volt output. Uses new Bosch LSU 4.2 7200 sensor (or 6066 too*). WBlin configurable (9.5 bit DAC) from AFR=9.0 to free-air. Auto-cal button calibration with sensor in free-air. NBsim narrowband (9.5 bit configurable) output. 2 analogue 0 to 5 Volt inputs sampled at up to 40/sec. RPM input from Tacho or ECU for logging. PULSE input from VSS sensor or cruise control for logging. 10.5 to 19.5 Volt DC operation (up to 3 Amps). Free logging software (optional upgrade available). Fibreglass covered cable - ABS plastic case - repairable! has RS232 output for no loss of wideband accuracy. AU$256 + post Gauges are available, but pricey. More info. Zeitronix Zt-2 0.1 AFR accuracy Operating voltage 10V to 18V Switching power supply for oxygen sensor heater Precise sensor temperature control Reverse polarity protection Integrated self-resetable fuse Positive lock connectors Protected inputs and outputs Flexible Plug and Play Sensor Harness with a small, easy to route through the fire wall, connector Wideband Oxygen Sensor included Easy to install plug and play kit Adjustable Narrowband Switching Point Warning Alarms and Triggers Inputs/Outputs: Bosch Wideband O2 sensor Linear Wideband Output AFR=Vx2+9.6 Nonlinear Wideband Output Serial data output to the Zeitronix Wideband LCD Display Serial data output for real time datalogging (PC laptop required) RPM Input ( tachometer or primary side ignition coil input). The RPM input works in any car and any ignition system. No additional adapters needed! Simulated Narrowband Output to feed a stock ECU Throttle Position Input Boost Sensor Input EGT Probe Input User Input Warning Output I really like this one, and is by far my choice. It is more of a mini data logger than a wideband controller. Little sensor modules can be purchased to log Boost/MAP. TPS can also be monitored if you hook it up. It has the loom already to log EGT, you just need a normal K type thermocouple to make it work. More Info US$280 + post All the above prices are RRP, I'll contact the suppliers once we know what we want None of the above controllers have provision for running dual wideband sensors, so if you want that I suggest you have a look at Techedge 3H1, but pretty pricey at $780 with no gauges. If for one can't justify that sort of $$. So what does everyone think?
Rightyo! Heard back from Nistune at 12:40AM So there we go. Boards for $180 upto 5 $170 6-9 $160 10+ Licences are $150 ea. I'll have to check whether that includes GST or not.