BLACK BEAST BUILD Slicktop R-Spec

Discussion in 'Member's Garage' started by BLACK BEAST, Feb 22, 2010.

  1. SRB-2NV

    SRB-2NV #TEAMROB

    Being tuned at UAS?


    PS. You might find the 1000cc injectors will run out of fuel quickly at your power level on E85, i know a few cars that have run out of fuel at the mid 400rwkw mark on E85.
     
    Last edited: Sep 7, 2012
  2. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

    yes At UAS

    quickly popped in today and they had done a cold run with no probs in fuel pressure and injectors around 65% (from memory)

    the fuel pump doesn't like heat and will be a problem at the track on a warm day even with a cooler ...not worth the risk .
    will be taking it home and put another 500- 1000km's on it before changing the pump and more tuning.

    Decided to leave the dumps for now and leave it at 21psi base boost.Spent too much time and money getting them right plus it Can't hurt :p

    So Took it for a quick spin - seriously revs like a bike !:D
    was just wheel spinning..hard to keep it off rev limiter with the 4.10
    Its ridiculous power
    The quaife drifts well too.:p

    my street kumhos after the dyno :(

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    my power steering cooler in
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  3. SIM300

    SIM300 FAKE MODERAT0R

    Good god what happened to those tyres?! Bet you wish you didn't use them on the dyno now, those things are melted good!

    Great results, Rob. She'll be an absolute weapon on the track, depending on the driver of course ;)
     
  4. Tektrader

    Tektrader Z32 Hoe, service me baby

    You hit the nail on the head Eric. I was talking to JP today and Rob last night. They have AN10 from the tank to the pump and 8AN from the pump to rail. and a 8AN return.

    This is clearly NOT what Aeromotive recommend. JP thinks it cheaper to get a NON fuel cooled pump than redo the piping. The pump is cavitating due to lack of fuel flow. This removes the motor from the fuel and makes it run hotter. Therin lies the problem IMO.

    Every critiscm of the pump I have read ended up being its application and NOT following the recommendations. I only found one post where a faulty pump causing low fuel pressure.

    The 100micron filter could also be blocked with crud seeing its a new system. Might need a clean.

    I have one of these pumps as well and need a resolution to this. BUT I have 10AN all the way through for my system.
     
    Last edited: Sep 7, 2012
  5. Tektrader

    Tektrader Z32 Hoe, service me baby

    Hasnt JP got any bellmouth dumps left ?

     
  6. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

    no
    he said you will sell me yours
     
  7. Tektrader

    Tektrader Z32 Hoe, service me baby

    LOL he is such a kidder :D You cant have the Precious ;)
     
  8. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

    I still can't see the problem whether you reduce to -8 at the rail or at the pump .
    Further more if it had -10 and temps still reached over 40 degrees on a warm day ,whats to say it won't have the same problem? worth the risk?
    Its too delicate of a pump for me. .and its f#@ken noisy ..can't hear my diff whine :rofl:

    At this stage still going with FUELAB (its brushless) as I'm not going to redo my plumbing and still have the possibilty of problem not solved.
    It is cheaper to replace for me.
    . its virtually a direct drop in

    You can't hide from heat at the track.

    dont have 100micron before the pump
    have 40 micron on pressure side .

    I may put a filter in between main tank and surge at a later stage.
     
  9. Tektrader

    Tektrader Z32 Hoe, service me baby

    I ran my pump to check it when It arrived. It extremely noisey with no fluid through it. Not too bad at all when its well primed etc.

    Maybe we are hearing the issue Rob, Not enough fluid in it??????????

    Anyway, if its cheaper to change pumps, than redo pipes. I would change pumps as well. :)
     
  10. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

    its sucking -10 from a 4 litre surge.. you not going to empty a 4 litre surge with a power run .:)
    same noise cold, hot its obviously supplying all the fuel I need when it doesn't get hot .

    I can get the fuelab for under 500 which has built in controller which wires straight up to my ECU
    and sell my pump and controller .
     
  11. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

    another update

    the turbosmart reg looks to be playing up .

    We set it at 4 bar . after taking it for another little drive and bringing it up to temp it drops down to 3 bar .

    So need to do a process of elimination starting with switching to different reg first.

    some info
    My water temps reached a max of 85 degrees from all the dyno runs which is great .
    oil temps went just over 110 degrees which is fine as I'm not running any coolers yet :)

    Will set up the twin coolers after 1000km run in .
    Reason being is its pointless with the frequent oil changes and I want to get it to operating temps on start up as quick as possible for now .(street use)

    starting to look like a car again .

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  12. ProckyZ89

    ProckyZ89 Senior Member

    A Turbosmart reg playing up ? I'm about to use one of the bastards lol
     
  13. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

    Fuelab arrived

    Fuelab 1500hp Speed controlled pump.
    645 lph @45psi .. (10.7 lpm )
    570 lph at 80psi!
    these figures are underrated as independant tests show over 700 lph @45psi
    plenty of fuel.

    fuelab 529 electronic fuel regulator -8an
    controls the pump speed directly as needed by monitoring return flow.
    no need to run off ECU .

    now to work out if the injectors are enough with E85 .:rolleyes:
    Not a fan of running high fuel pressures.

    will finish the base tune on 98 with 1000cc for now





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  14. frysie

    frysie FRYTECH

    NOOB ALERT...

    what unit of measurement is AN ?
     
  15. ezzupturbo

    ezzupturbo JDMAutomotive

    army-navy man :)
     
  16. beaver

    beaver southern zeds

    700 lph @45psi

    @ what voltage though?
     
  17. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

    13.5
     
  18. frysie

    frysie FRYTECH

    army navy waaa ?
     
  19. ezzupturbo

    ezzupturbo JDMAutomotive

    -AN means Army Navy
     
  20. frysie

    frysie FRYTECH

    so how does army navy relate to -8 AN ? makes no sense lol

    oh thanks wiki : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN_thread

    so its 1 1/6" per a step. interesting...
     

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