UAS front camber arms SCREWED

Discussion in 'Technical' started by BoneZx, Apr 16, 2011.

  1. brisz

    brisz Well-Known Member

    Previous to having them fitted I was chewing out front 245/18 tyres, getting around 50% out of the tyre. My understanding is that sag in suspension and chassis combined with bigger rubber is a recipe for inside tyre wear. Now i have very slight inside wear, still get maximum tyre wear, but I think that is about the setup dialed in by Fulcrum Suspension. No squeaks no problems at all.

    If you need more you might be able to combine these to gain more, but I would suggest talking with a local suspension specialist.

    http://www.conceptzperformance.com/...Car_Type=54459&UID=20110418232631118.208.5.84

    Whiteline list these guys as a dealer in South Africa.

    Pyro Performance
    8 Montrose Close, Noordhock Cape Town WP 7985 South Africa
    Ph: 021 785 2689
    Fax: 086 613 4084
    Email: julian@pyroperformance.co.za

    EDIT: Unless you need some extreme adjustment, you could fit the adjustable bushes see if they give you enough, then if they don't fit the spacers as well and adjust accordingly.

    Most likely you are going to get someone to fit them, that hasnt done them before, MAKE SURE THEY FIT THE NIPPLES.
     
  2. ross

    ross Member

    Since UAS didn't run the GB, why would they need to respond:confused:
    My advice is you should contact the GB person and ask them to sort out your concerns.


    ross
     
  3. Cam

    Cam ****

    Because UAS designed, engineered and mass produced these. If anything, talk to their rep. What's a GB leader going to do about it? :rolleyes:
     
  4. ross

    ross Member

    As I understand UAS didn't sell them on this forum, so why are they required to answer this thread.
    My advice is , contact the point off sale ( GB holder) for answers.

    ross
     
  5. rollin

    rollin First 9

    regardless of them being required to or not, i think that they should comment on this matter, they made the product and are active on this forum.
     
  6. ross

    ross Member

    I agree, but since iv'e been infracted, banned, over such matter's.
    The guidelines are there, and as far as the mods are concerend, they have been followed.
    I hate to say, i raised matters with the mods , provided info , since knowing the maker's for neally 20 yr's, and fab/welder for close to this time.
    Got lead along ;),
    What's a person to do.
    After so many posts, why no post, not required, simple.

    Sorry take it to PM, wouldn't want to drag a members name down

    ross
     
  7. lurker_nz

    lurker_nz New Member

    I think that is a spurious argument, Ultimately it is the manufacturer who is culpable if a product fails. Wasn't it Toyota that recalled all those vehicles and not each individual dealershi ???. Sure I think the GB organiser should be taking a lead in this matter, especially if they made some money off the GB. Even the much maligned AMD crew get on here pretty quick when one of their products goes belly up. Just good customer relation skills at the end of the day to at least acknowledge there is a problem and make your prescence felt. It is OZ over there and not India, and the last time I visted I didn't see any sacred cows running around with impunity
     
  8. brisz

    brisz Well-Known Member

    This is no doubt a difficult situation, although not stated by the manufacturer UAS, but buy the distributor of the GB rob260, they are warranted for road use for a period of 12 months.

    http://www.aus300zx.com/forum/showthread.php?p=934224#post934224

    I cant find anything after this post to modify this statement and find it highly irregular for this kind of product, given the exposure to litigation. It could also be taken as the level of confidence in the quality of the product.

    Given that the GB was shipped December 09 they are out of warranty.

    What should be expected from UAS or rob260 probably nothing.

    This is a single report of a problem, is it a reflection of the reliability of the product, i would say not, but certainly a heads up for people with them to do a detailed inspection.

    Given the history of after market suspension components versus the history of OEM components, a certain responsibility has to be taken from the purchaser regardless of warranties. We know they don't have the engineering pedigree of OEM components nor the installed base to rune when there is a problem, expecting after market components to provide the same serviceability of OEM parts in an upgraded performance environment is delusional. Usually they are designed for some benefit over the OEM part, assuming that benefit is the only change to the part is convenient and stupid.

    People need to understand that Nissan are not a bunch of idiots that cant design for shit, if they do something there is a reason for it. If we had a designer/engineer on the forum that had completed dozens of cars from drawing board to showroom, people would think he/she was a god, from our prospective Nissan are gods we need to pay them a little more respect.

    I find this comment interesting from the OP in the GB.

    I am not aware of any issue or recall for OEM upper front arms.

    Remember when you fit a modified part or setup there are effects to existing parts surrounding that modification that will give varying results from car to car, without extensive design testing, production quality control with destructive sample testing and a massive installed base to quickly get accurate feedback you are always guessing as to reliability and safety.

    Having a suspension component failure at high speed is something I never want to experience, especially in a car coming the other way.
     
  9. rollin

    rollin First 9

    I dont agree with the warranty time frame at all. So within 12 months they will be replaced , but at 15 months old they will fall over and nothing is said or done?
     
  10. CHILI

    CHILI Indestructable Target

     
  11. ross

    ross Member


    While OS, this thread came to light,
    As per fourm guidelines ( drumed into me via mods ) it's all good.
    Since the GB organiser dosen't make any money there clear.
    and since they followed the guide line's ,
    there's nobody to answer to.

    ross
     
  12. ross

    ross Member

     
  13. CHILI

    CHILI Indestructable Target

     
    Last edited: Apr 21, 2011
  14. Adamness

    Adamness Active Member

    I get a headache trying to interpret what it is you are trying to say in all of your posts mate.

    I am unsure of your background, English could be your 4th language for all I know but maybe if you take the time to try constructing something that atleast resembles a sentence and not fragments of text with incorrectly spelled words etc. then you may be taken seriously?

     
  15. ross

    ross Member

     
  16. ross

    ross Member

    Since i have timeout problem's (dialup)
    some post are short

    ross
     
  17. CHILI

    CHILI Indestructable Target

     
  18. brisz

    brisz Well-Known Member

    They have a 12 month warranty FULL STOP !

    IMHO If the manufacturer/distributor has knowledge of a problem and does not recall, rectify or notify, they could be found negligent out side warranty terms for loses attributed to the known fault.

    One failure is a long way from a known fault, but this is the arena you enter fitting aftermarket parts to your car.

    Try getting an electrical product repaired outside of warranty, even for a known problem.

    How an entity responds to this situation reflects their legal exposure and the perceived damage to future business and willingness to mitigate that effect.
     
  19. brisz

    brisz Well-Known Member

    You seem to be against full public disclosure of the situation, for what reason i am not sure, maybe there is an alterior motive. :eek:

    It seems that there has been more then this one failure, with out "This kind of weak-kneed belly-aching on a forum" people who have this product may not be aware of a problem.

    Some may be about to fail and with out this knowledge may not inspect and may suffer greatly.

    When does a product manufacturers modesty come before public safety ?

    NEVER !

    You of all people. :rolleyes:
     
  20. a2zed

    a2zed Guest

    The fact that UAS are aware of issues with this product and are not sure of how many are actually failing is a problem in itself.

    The very least that could have been done was an email/pm sent to the GB participants asking that they have the arms inspected for failure before it became a major issue.

    This is why manufacturers send out recalls, a significant problem of unknown quantity. Waiting for failure in the hands of the customer to allow them to further develop the item is not a good idea considering the importance of this component.
     

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