Heres an idea - just keep the your steering components and wheel diameters stock for road use and keep replacing your tyres as required. If this discussion was government run there would be an inquiry and some random company paid millions of dollars to investigate possible comes. It still comes down to whats allowable by law. These are not ADR approved - were sold 'for off road / race track use ONLY' and have failed after 5-10 thousand K's of spirited potholed, train tracked street use. I imagine thats pretty acceptable for race use! I dont think UAS has anything to anwser for. Futhermore, everyone has different suspension/wheel combinations. What works well for some replacing there camber arms - wont nessasarilly work for others. Suspension is a specialised field - Jo Blow in his backyard banging these in with a hammer and adjusting these by sight is hardly an expert. If they are adjust too far - they dont have the the reinforced support - that much is obvious. I am sure it was suggested that if anyone was to want additional positive camber that they had to specify the larger inner sleeve??
What you say is pretty nearly correct(with the exception of the alternate inner sleeve). At the time I purchased my "pivoting arms", there was no alternate length on offer. This only surfaced after I suggested something of this nature to John(after news that Dinoz had suffered this problem)and during an inspection of my arms(which seemed to be OK at that time). A short time later(during a Wheel Alignment)my arms were also found to be bent. I am currently awaiting the longer arms.
If they were sold as "off road use only" then like with other similar components any failure that causes loss (financial or physical injury) would invalidate any insurance and leave the car owner open to criminal prosecution and/or civil action. Just a though
That is a given(and is not limited to suspension components). Excessively dark window tint, aftermarket rims, stretched tyre fitment, HID headlights, in fact, just about anything you care to change(that has the potential to contribute to a reduction in safety, loss or injury)can fall into this category.
true, but only if the component that failed was a significant contributing factor to the accident. Stretched tyres etc would presumably only be considered a contributing factor if a tyre failed due to its fitment causing the driver to lose control and crash. I imagine with suspension components it would be fairly cut and dry, either they fail or they dont, if any suspension component failed that was an aftermarket item, it is highly likely that it would cause a significant impact on vehicle control and would give insurance companies ground for dispute. There are probably very few zeds on the road that would be completely free of potential insurance voiding modifications BUT suspension, brakes and tyres could be seen as a significant contributing factor to almost any accident
Understand the sentiment. But there is one thing missing that would complete the discussion, and that is a comment from the designer/manufacturer/sponsor/distributor. Without it, all we can do is exchange experiences, not that that isn't valuable of itself.
There is apparently a great deal that you do not know.LOL Kindly stop posting this rubbish and ring UAS instead.
Thanks! I'd like to thank everyone who has contributed to this conversation. I've learned a lot. I put on the Noltec type (see pic) with blue bushes about 2-years ago to help with scrubbing-out the inside of my tires. I have stock suspension with 18" x 9" wide low profile tires. It was definitely better but even after adjustment, eventually did wear the inside of the tires; I probably lost about 3-4 months wear on a new set. The steering has become a little lose and my mechanic tells me the Noltecs are worn; also they have developed annoying squeaking. I haven't been able to find replacement bushes, so have ordered new red and silver arms from Japtek. The thing I'm not sure about, is, do I also need to get the rose jointed tension rods that Tektrader mentions on page 1 of this thread. I'm not clear on that. Any further ideas? Thanks again.
Those Noltec style arms are the type that suffered severe fractures and breakages several years ago(and prompted several companies to look for a viable alternative design). So far, none have been entirely successful(due in part to the "twisting" movement that occurs as the wheel/upright travels through it's range of vertical movement). This is also affected by the Tension Rods and bushes. Some designs are more affected than others. I have experienced U/C Arm failures using both stock Tension Rods and "rose-jointed" alternatives(although it is fair to say that in my experience, the failure was more pronounced when using OEM Tension Rods with the Noltec style arms). I continue to use aftermarket Tension Rods without any real concern(but I also continue to suffer various degrees of U/C Arm woes). If it was not an issue of insufficient Camber adjustment, I would return to OEM U/C arms.
