As bulletproof the 2JZ is perported to be with the potential of at least 600hp on stock internals, the VG is still my choice. Dollar for dollar, when my rebuild is done, I believe I'll have just a bullet proof engine as the 2JZ if not even better. The complete tear down and balancing/blueprinting/decking etc, along with the removal of all cooling passage castings with stonger base parts will make the 2JZ pale in comparison, IMO. And the oem cooling issues will be something of the past. Shoe-horning that 2JZ 6 would be a real bugger IMO, but you definitely would stand out from the crowd. I would like to stand out in the crowd in other ways that won't be potential problems down the road.
LS1 would be my weapon of choice, ad an air filter, exhaust 300kw mafless tune, a cam, and a small super charger and you would be seeing 350 easy and reliabe and readiness of parts available, also there is someone in syd that has done the conversion already to the driftz so less time charged cos they know what they are doing
If money isnt really a big issue, i'd go the 2JZ or as mentioned above the RB30, which are also meant to be strong. But in any other cases i'd just stick with the VG, because i think that it would be more rare than the other engines. Hearing about these big power 2J's and RB26's all the time but no big powered VG30's. VG ftw!
if money isn't an issue... for power a TT LS7 drop would be my choice. for street a cammed NA LS7 and for sound RB26 heads with OS giken RB30 bottom end + you'll be still using a nissan powerplant.
Baz. Not forgetting the LS1 was fitted into an already bare engine bay without alot of things... So if you were to leave p/s pumps, AC e.t.c. gotta have the luxuries. HAHHAAH.. But i see your point and it does have merit... Does it matter if i am a holden man???? Might as well go for a new boss 290?
imo putting a straight 6 into a zed would jsut tranform it into a dyno/drag queen. with all that extra weight hanging over the front wheels (due to the longer engine), its gonna upset balance and hence handling. if i was gonna do a swap id go either vk45 (just to stay with nissan, pretty exxpensive though and aftermarket is non existant) or ls1/ls2 (they can be raped for power, stock one with a $5k supercharger kit makes ~380kW ). being v8's they would probably be wore compact and from what i gather their both relatively light engines for what they are so weight increase wouldnt be too bad.
martin not sure how accurate the imbalance comment is.. The fact that you have an inline 6 does not mean the car will imbalance? People usually go lighter and reduce parts to improve? so with that in mind should the inline 6 be 'LIGHTER' than a VG then would that not improve response of steering? There is a thread i will post up here of a guy that had jus tfinished a conversion of a 2jz into a zed and he claims the things a monster. Whell spin 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and hasnt tried 6th yet... Ok no doubt there is big money there BUT!!!!!!!! not to say you cant own the dyno king crown? Terry
some links with the bastardisation If you scroll down to a guy named 'WIDEBODYLUIS' he is the one that just finished the conversion... http://www.myvividracing.com/showthread.php?p=203528 http://www.myvividracing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1754&d=1149224440 http://www.meggala.com/hybridscss.htm Terry
you can wear the skirt mate.. i wear the pants... I know hte terminology.. The explanation was best suited for the male if you know what i mean :biggrin:
I'm just teasing you, RB26DETT in a 2+2 NA (formerly) I'm not 100% certain but I think the RB might be heavier, I know it's heaver than the VG30ET. How much heavier the DETT is though I dont know off the top of my head.
Ls1 - How much? Who can I talk to about driftZ? Hey guys, I have an NA and have been saving for a TT conversion but recently I've been considering the LS1 option but am curious about cost and who I can talk to. Any advice would be greatly appreciated
If you're going down the road of putting a different engine in it for the sake of being different than doesn't matter which engine you opt for as both will require custom fabrication to fit and both will present some brick walls to bang your head against before it all rocks and rolls. Getting another engine would set you back $$$ but you would get most of that back if you sell the VG once you pull it out. RB would probably be an easier solution as it has been done more than 2jz and there is more info on the net to help you along. All three are great engines with enourmous potential.Good luck whichever way you choose to go.
depending on the option i go for purchasing the engine will be a fairly expensive.. At a bare minimum of 6k i should be able to pick up a healthy motor... I have a long way to go in understanding what implications there are in increasing performance on these engines for example, exhaust manifolds, plenum honing, port matching and the like.. I know in the zeds manis are a bit of a curely issue where there are products out there that are just not cut out for the job, so you either go super expensive mike smith manis or extrude hones manis to get similar performance.... Again these are the issues that need to be identified and i am sure that i cant cover off every aspect of a conversion as there are things you wont cater for but accounting for most things is very improtant in guaging cost, time and feasability. I think purchasing a halfcut shell would aid these factors. Terry
If it's chossing between those 3 engines- i think the 2JZ choice is a no brainer. Everyone is aware of their reliability, horsepower potential and ease of converting to big single turbo. So far i think this meets your criteria for what you want. Cost may be an issue, with a decent 2JZ 6-speed half-cut costing around $6000, but then again an RB26 will cost probably around the same anyway. And if you have a mate who can do the work a bit cheaper even better. I think most of us can admit not may VG30's are pulling 350rwkw on stock internals, whereas 2JZ's are widely renowned for this. At the end of the day it's up to what you want to do, but if you ask me, if there were any conversion that i would bother doing it would be with either a 2JZ or LS1
Hhaha!... I saw an integra last night with those very number plates: VTECYO Just shake your head and walk away...
Get an exgine cheaper than that. LS1 for $3,000 in NSW: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/VT-SS-GEN-3-...yZ102358QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
arguably a good choice. Single turbo setup would be the preferred option. Just confirming that the 2jz does normally run as a sequential turbo setup right?
2jz's are sequential normally, but heaps of people put the single turbo on and because it's a straight six like the RB, it's not as hard as on a VG.
