hi i havent started the car for a month. when i tried today it cranked when the key was in the ON position, not the start position. when i turn it to the start it keeps cranking but there is a loud click like the starter solenoid. bit puzzling, could it be the starter or contacts jammed? lucky it did start straight away. all thoughts would be great.
nope not a starter problem is the relay from the boost controller, or maybe the wiring. i dont know that the car has been run since installed, perhaps it is wired wrong. its a gizmo and the diagram is a little vague. red - constant power - easy blue - ignition , must stay on - presume while sarter is cranking. yellow/green - ignition 2 - i presume accesories position. any other ideas. just want to check that it is right. when the key is turned to accesories you can hear the solenoid activating, is this correct? thanks all
Dude go back and re write the post -hard to offer a constructive opinion when we can't understand what you've posted to begin with
Confusing that the car cranks in the ON position and not the start - something is not wired correctly if that is the actual case The loud click means that the starter gear is actually attempting to engage (that's the noise from it making contact repeatedly) - this normally occurs from a dead battery or low voltage battery because the contact is not staying engaged (hence everyone is not mucking around when exclaiming dead battery - especially if left sitting for a long time like a month, then the battery is normally undercharged) Another common cause is the battery terminals are not tight/ connecting properly or are loose even though they appear fine - remove and reset the terminals just to make sure. Whilst battery voltage can normally tell you that the battery is good - it actually requires a cranking test to confirm the battery is good (the charge must have depth of charge i.e. CCA amperage behind it and not just plate voltage) Seriously need to work out the wiring on the car starting by itself in the on position - these are high amperage lines - you don't want that happening!
battery is good, it is cranking, turning over, would start in the on position if i let it. i have pulled the fuel pump fuse so it doesnt. if it did the starter would not stop. the battery has not sat for a month, it is fine its an optima i bought for my other project. As i also said in the next post is it possible for an incorrectly wired ebc to cause this?
EBC shouldn't cause this, I don't know the ins and outs of Zed ignition wiring but yeah the EBC shouldn't affect it. That said however if the wiring is shitty then who knows... I would start by removing the steering column and the panel underneath that, and have a look for any obvious shorts or broken wires.
yes I know its confusing, thats why I am asking on here. I'm an electrician and it has me a little stumped. I must admit I know nothing about how the circuits on a ebc operate. there are two wires on the ebc that I am trying to check up on. one must have power while cranking. which I presume is the start position on the key. the other is just labeled as "accessory 2" which i presume the "ON" position on the key. It is a Gizzmo ms2 ebc. very puzzling. All cables etc under the dash all seem fine, I havent tested with a meter though. possible malfunction in the ign barrell??
If it cranked in the start position are you sure the key lock switch isn't rooted? Seems to me the only way it can do what you say is if its screwed.
I am assuming that you have wired it to the wrong ignition wire -and its back-feeding power supply somewhere into the starter that's why I said yes - its possible. Whether its true or not - I don't know - I cannot see it - you will have to look for me. Could be a malfunction in the barrel - yes - but they tend not to do this unless the contacts have melted and joined them together as they are fairly separated (2mm) Where/ What did you connect the EBC wires to is the first question here.......recheck this part again especially given what you have said so far
thanks for your help so far i will check what is connectted to which cable over the next couple of days. pretty busy got drags over the weekend.
Pretty obvious to me. Nothing wrong with the battery. He made that perfectly clear. The controller is wired incorrectly. One of the leads is wired to the start wire off the key. Ive not wired a Gizmo but Im guessing one wire will be always on and the other will go to the RUN position. This is so the controller maintains memory and the run lead powers it on and off. Same as a head unit. Just remove the controller and rewire again. E
If auto then could be starter relay stuck. If your car is an Auto then the Starter relay could be stuck in the on position. I think it is behind the guard but needs to be confirmed as mine is a manual and does not have the relay and inhibitor circuitry. Also if you have an alarm system I would check that . MichaelZ
