Just wondering if anyone has this clutch installed in their car?http://www.conceptzperformance.com/Cart/description.php?II=127&UID=Apparently 1100kg clamping force... and standard is about 630kg. The one I have from unique auto sports is hopeless, it is only 670kg clamping force and they claim 40% increase clamping pressure so should be around 880kg.I'm sick of uas, they are absolutely crap. I'm going elsewhere with my business.
I'm looking at getting the N/A version What is the actual difference? I'd be interested in knowing how much the freight would cost you.I couldn't imagine the freight only being $40(US) cause I thought a Clutch would be pretty heavy and overseas well.........but I have never bought anything from the US so I wouldn't know.P.S. - Hard call - that's got to hurt ay John?8(
Have u considered the RPS Sport Street Clutch. I believe that would have the clamping force u were after initially. I also bought the JTW Fly wheel (seriously worth checking out) from concept z. The shipping for both the items was $170USD. However, u should know that the RPS clutch i bough was badge engineered. It is actually made by a Japanese company. I cant exactly remember. I am still running the clutch in so I cant really give u a good idea about how much power it holds. The lightened fly wheel is also made by Fidanza. Its worth actually calling and talking to Coz from there..he will tell u straight up the differences between the clutches i believe they were quite minimal.
Check out the Clutch Kits at wwwTTzed.com .. ... as they are in Victoria, so I would recommend you get your 300ZX performance and nissan OEM parts from them and not ConceptZ in the USA or UAS (as they tend to make their own parts):I think you will find the JWT Street Clutch Twin Turbo, would be similar to the Stage 1 Clutch Kit at TTzed:TTZed - Clutch KitsSTAGE 1 - Centerforce Clutch (90-96 Z32) Featuring a highly upgraded disc, the Stage 2 kit will meet the needs for those with hard and aggressive driving habits and most power needs this side of Nitrous. The clutch material provides smooth engagement and the long life expectancy of any other combination. Most applications consist of performance pressure plate, clutch disc, throw-out bearing. [image]http://www.ttzed.com/products/productimages/large/454006.jpg[/image]
Clutch Prob Our clutches are 1100kg and we received this one in question back and it is not. We sell and or fit at ten or more a month. We have had very few if any probs. It may have got mixed up with a factory one. We have had MANY cases of installation probs in the past and thought this was the case with this one. We received it back last week and inspected tested straight away and will send you 1100kg one asap. I am sorry for the inconveinence and obvious frustration, but other than suspecting installation prob we have worked with you to resolve this asap. Re TTZED clutches, we supplied them for years with our clutches and also no probs other than the odd installation prob.
I thought that "bagging" another suppliers> products, particularly when not asked for an opinion, was in breach of the forum guidelines.What exactly is your beef with aftermarket products (and does it extend to non-genuine ECU upgrades.:?) I thought not!):N(One rule for everyone please. Cheers Lloyd :-Z
I can't find it........>> Doesn't appear to be anything in the guidelines about "bagging" products either in a response or unsolicited. Hawkus may have stated his problem with his clutch supplier better but I'm not going to delete a post from someone because they bemoan their problems or I would have deleted your posts about the probelems you had with Garrett and your love for their turbo work.Maybe you were suggesting that I delete the post by RobertBarr who suggested another alternative to the two business already mentioned and as far as I can see did it without "bagging" anyone.
I don't expect you to delete anything> Pete, I am simply sick of thinly disguised advertising for various businesses, and I don't care who they happen to be.In my mind, it is a breach of the intent of the guidelines, to have unsolicited advertising "Cut and Pasted" directly from a catalogue/website and onto this forum, without admission of that fact, as it implies that the comments are from the person so posting, which is entirely false and deceptive.It is also a method for a business to circumvent the advertising guidelines, although I don't believe that this has happened in this instance.As for "bagging" a product or business on the basis that they sell aftermarket items, surely it is not unreasonable to enquire as to why these products are considered unsuitable.Recent events have seen legal action threatened because of criticism of product performance, a situation not lost on the Moderators, judging by the discussions held at Gilgandra.I don't have any problems with you or anyone else mentioning where an item can be obtained, as long as it is in answer to a request for such info. I believe that today, RobertBarr has gone "over the top" in this respect. I may have missed it, but I didn't see anyone asking for info on vendors for the items he advertised.Just a level playing field is all that's needed, nothing more and nothing less.Cheers mate Lloyd :-Z
Why "level the playing field"?... seriously I dont see what your complaining about. I think its fine to cut and paste product descriptions and where to get them from. If people want to promote ttzed products because they have used them and think they are good, then so be it. If they do that for UAS, I care just as much. Same for Coz and every other retailer, in fact I dont even care if someone posts the Coles catalogue .You cant argue the fact that John pushes the hell out of his products on this board to the members. I have barely ever seen a word from Simon. Hardly need to call out for leveling the playing field if Simons customers choose to do this for him. If anything, following your reasoning Johns posts should be censored and any reference to his products deleted from his posts as your so concerned about circumventing advertising guidelines. Personally though Im happy with how it is.
Sorry Guys... ... Until today I've never read the Advertising Guidelines, as I assumed (perhaps naively on my part) that this applies to the business owners and not customers, but I will be more unbiased in my posts from now on.Anyway, I can assure you all that I am not aasociated in anyway with TTzed, Nissport, Z-Shop, Dunlop or any other company I've recommended in my posts.Nor do I have anything against UAS - only last week I recommeded the UAS FTO Cold Air Ram Pod Kit to my best friend for his Mitsubishi FTO Mivec which he has purchased, and I have purhased body parts from them also.cheers guys, Rob
I deliberately took care NOT to> mention ANY businesses, in relation to spelling out my concerns, as I wanted bias to be avoided at all costs. Isn't it a sad state of affairs, when some of you people can't see beyond your own personal bickering. You have my personal apology, for me ever having dealt with ALL of the suppliers you have mentioned, obviously I'm biased toward ALL of them.Cheers Lloyd :-Z
Robert, I used your posts as >> an example of where a weakness/loophole, could be found and exploited in those guidelines. I also stated that "I did not think that was the case" with your postings. If, for example, you had prefaced your "cut & paste" segments, by saying "here is what....has to say about this product", or something similar, then you would no longer be giving the impression that this is your personal experience/opinion.No hard feelings, Cheers Lloyd :-Z
We have a level playing field......>> All members have the same rights with the exception of businesses who are restricted from self promotion, but they can mention a product in response to a direct enquirey. We introduced the rule concerning self promotion way back because a member who ran a business that traded to the members was abusing the forum by lsting his specials in his signiture, thus turning every one of his posts into an add for his company and products. It was introduced at the request of other businesses. Recently we had to caution another business from encrouching on that rule and the company in question acknowledged their overstepping and has ceased to do it.There is no problem with members linking to different websites or mentioning different suppliers (even eBay adds) in response to questions asked. If I wanted to tow the line you are hinting we go to, then I would have to delete your post HERE which suggests a member buy a product from a company and is in no way (to quote you) as long as it is in answer to a request for such info but that would have been wrong because your answer was very helpful. What would have made it even better would have been providing a picture of the item and a link to it because having read the initial post by LaZZaR, it suggested he was less then familiar with the workings of the clutch fork.Yes, you are correct that Robert should have mentioned that he was quoting from the website instead of just cutting/pasteing which could give the impression he was talking from experience. Could you not have responded better by simply pointing that out, instead of making claims like "One rule for everyone please."
Back to the point & I spoke with Shane ( HawKus ) re the clutch and was I missing something re thinking we did something terrible we did or? My clutch guy did call his workshop in Melbourne to speak with them and left a message and did not hear back from them. I also clarified with my clutch man and standard Zed TT clutches are around 850 to 980 kg clamp load and ours are minimum 1150 kg up to 1250 kg. Anyway it seems Shane was mainly frustrated and this morning he will have his new clutch and all good. He was suprised to know I was on this forum it seems. Feedback on forums is all good and people should be able to warn or advise on what or who is good or not good within reason. If personalities and emotions are over done as in this case then not good. Re me being on the forum and I am on many others although 80% this one. Most businesses are in for the money first, where I am an enthusiast first and my wife keeps reminding me that we are supposed to be making money. I am involved on this forum to learn, associate, have fun and assist. In reply to posts above about coming across as pushing product. I don't think I do and on a rare few occasions in answering someone's questions I have posted a reply with a link or pic from my site. Re me directly doing this and Simon not, he does not have to as has others in the sponsorship clan do this very regularly. Level playing field, yeah right. I think Rob appears to be fully into the enthusiast camp only maybe. Although if any business or their sponsored to semi sponsored over doing posts of direct or indirect promotion then not good. Posting links generally though saves time and assists and is part of the forum theme.
I take your points on board, and I>> agree that in the most part, these problems have diminished. Yes, I could have responded differently (as you suggest), and in fact I did so at around 0840 this morning (see my response to RobertBarr's "Sorry guys").Cheers mate Lloyd :-Z
So you did.....>> In that case sorry for mentioning what didn't need to be said. I read your earlier post while online at home before coming to work and then formulated a response ofline which I posted once I'd logged back on. That will teach me to make sure I refresh and read all new posts.
Update... Firstly to respond to chilli, I was not bagging a supplier I was merely stating my experience with uas up to that point... just so others could be aware of what may happen.The problem was with one of the staff members saying that I'd be contacted the same day and never doing it (Tim from memory), plus a lot of phone calls never once to recieve a return call. John did contact a few times and I have no problems with his service, just some staff members. I just dont appreciate being stuffed around and I'm sure neither to most people.A new clutch has been sent out as the original was indeed faulty and they have offered $100 to help out with the extra installation I have incurred, whilst better than nothing, for a $300 job it helps only slightly. They have also, which I appreciate, have told me that a pivot bearing can sometimes wear and break so they have, at their own initiative, inlcuded a new one worth $55 free of charge.So all in all I'm -$200 from where I should be.And have been without a car for probably 3 weeks by the time I get it back.I its guess something to be wary of for any potential customers.
Thanks for clarifying Good to hear from you and clarify. Not sure what you mean about wary though? For the large volume over many years we have been supplying clutches to get only one prob not bad. So if warning re .1 % then yes or maybe more that if get wrong part and costs issue I guess. If we are required to compensate then we will. As far as I was aware we are not even though I did partially. If it is the case then I will have a heap of claims with Nissan and other unless it is only for retail customers.
