Brake parts?

Discussion in 'Non Technical' started by 300zxt, Jun 13, 2008.

  1. 300zxt

    300zxt Well-Known Member

    So where do you guys get all your brake parts from? I'm currently rebuilding a set of Z32 TT calipers to go on my 89T. I've already got them broken down etc, but I'm just pricing some rebuild kits. Now I know Nissan Australia is an absolute joke and want an insane amount of cash for a caliper seal kit. The kit itself is $30 from the Courtesy Nissan in the USA which is the cheapest I've seen.

    What about SS braided brake lines for the TT though? I want ADR approved ones just to be on the safe side and that's the sort of thing I dont want to shop on ebay for! I've searched but most results here are 2 year old group buys etc

    And finally rotors & pads. Shipping is hideously expensive getting brake rotors from the USA for obvious reasons so any savings to be had are lost in the cost of shipping. I'm thinking about some slotted/dimpled brembo blanks, not sure on the type of brake pads. The calipers I got came with brake pads that are practically unused but I'll replace them anyway.

    So I figured I'd see where all you guys get your stopping gear from, I keep getting faster so I gotta be able to stop faster too! :D
     
  2. heavytrevy

    heavytrevy "Hammer time "

    Shoot Coz an email c what he can do ,mention that ur from here :)
     
  3. WhiteNight

    WhiteNight Littering and...

  4. 300zxt

    300zxt Well-Known Member

    Thanks I'll take a look...

    Goodridge 300ZX Stainless Steel Brakelines $110
    http://www.conceptzperformance.com/...7&Car_Type=300&UID=20080612175054124.169.10.9

    ^ very nice

    The Maltech lines are $368 haha :rolleyes:

    Here's the seal kit for those that are interested in not getting raped, even with postage it's a ton cheaper than anywhere locally.

    Front Caliper Seal Kit (complete front) $30.92
    http://www.courtesyparts.com/Mercha...n=PROD&Store_Code=CP&Product_Code=41120-00002

    I'm definately not one to be thrifty, at the same time I dont like getted ripped off either. A seal kit for $99+ is just not right, shit I could order in a whole box full from the U.S and and sell them to everyone for $50 a set and still make a profit.

    Rotors,

    http://www.conceptzperformance.com/...6&Car_Type=300&UID=20080612175054124.169.10.9

    This Coz dude seems to be the go. He sells brembo blanks for less than others sell RDAs. It must be nice living in the states where everything is cheap as chips!

    Now to see what I get stung for postage.
     
  5. vbevan

    vbevan Active Member

  6. 300zxt

    300zxt Well-Known Member

    Yeah I know the R32 is exactly the same and presumably the R33 aswell but I didn't know about the WRX though, good to know thanks. I'm only doing the front conversion, the backs not really worth it as they're about on par with each other anyway.

    Dont mind me, I'm just making a list here of parts I might need and others might find this useful in the future.

    New piston cylinders (need 8 = $240.96USD)

    http://www.courtesyparts.com/betasite/41121-piston-cylinder-300zx-z32-1990-1996-p-41074.html

    I dont think I'll need them, but just incase any of them are scored when I pop them out. With these and a seal/hardware kit they'd literally be like new.
     
  7. black baz

    black baz black 'n blue Bazemy

    usa brakelines = ADR approved .. ?? worth checking ..

    .. courtesy parts ... check/beware of shipping costs .... normally much higher than COZ ...

    ..braided brakelines .. check the UAS thread ,, they reckon that they now have the earlier issues resolved with a new model hose, presumably ADR approved ...???? .. just a thought ...
     
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  8. MagicMike

    MagicMike Moderator Staff Member

  9. 300zxt

    300zxt Well-Known Member

    Yeah I heard back from Coz, basically whatever the rotors cost double that shipped. It still works out less than buying locally though which is honestly ridiculous.

    I doubt the Goodridge lines are ADR approved but they would be of very high quality I imagine. There is no way those Maltech lines are worth nearly 4x as much though unless they're gold plated of course! lol
     
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  10. Chrispy

    Chrispy Pretentious Upstart

    Check recent GB threads about the ADR approvedness.

    From the ACTUAL ADR's it must be:

    Made to a recognized international standard, BS, ISO, JAS etc.
    Fitted as to not rub etc

    And that was about it, I can not find this mysterious document that says otherwise. Goodridge lines are fine IMHO.
     
  11. LOWZX

    LOWZX Banned

    nor can i chris,so i purchased a full set of the goodridge ones,stuff paying 3 times the price for this bullshit adr crap
     
  12. RedZedMikey

    RedZedMikey RZM should now be DZM

    I'm not sure how you work this out.
    From Coz, the Brembo slotted + cross drilled stock size rotors are US$320/pair + freight, which will NOT be cheap.

    CazRacing can do a pair of slotted RDA's for A$210/pair + freight, and that will be cheaper from NSW or Vic ... or

    CazRacing can do a pair of slotted + dimpled RDA's (made by EBC) for A$310/pair + freight.

    All prices are for TT thickness stock size front rotors. Coz can offer us some great deals - but I don't think stock size rotors is one of them. I've used him on multiple occasions for other stuff.

    Courtesy's price is great - but be prepared to be raped by their postage costs. In the past they have stated they WILL NOT ship by USPS; UPS do the raping. Coz will ship by USPS if requested.

    So how important is the ADR requirement to you? UAS is developing a Goodridge set that will meet ADR's - not sure on timing or price; I would expect them to be much cheaper than Maltech, maybe double the US Goodridges sold by Coz.
     
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  13. RedZedMikey

    RedZedMikey RZM should now be DZM

    I could be wrong, but I think the issue of ADR compliance is related to passing test procedures. I highly doubt each different model would be tested; more likely to be a generic test for the brand. Once all construction and performance requirements are met an approval number would be given, and this number, on a tag, must be fitted to the line.

    The quality of the US Goodridges is no doubt excellent, but without the tags, not an approved product. If the Aussie marketed Goodridge product has been put through the process and approved, they are OK - hopefully this includes the revised product being produced forUAS..

    Silly I know, because a tag with a number on it means diddly squat really. I do suspect that the Aussie Goodridges are made in a different plant to the US ones. If raw materials and manufacturing processes were to the same standard, there is no real difference. And anybody would be super unlucky to be stung for non-ADR lines I guess ;). Personally, I don't want to give my insurance company an escape clause.
     
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  14. Chrispy

    Chrispy Pretentious Upstart

    Mikey, please show me the regulations, legislation or ADR where this is stated.

    As far as I can determine it was overturned and out of force from early '03.
     
  15. 300zxt

    300zxt Well-Known Member

    I worked that out because that's what he told me.

    Brembo 300ZX Front Rotors - Stock Fitment $160
    http://www.conceptzperformance.com:...6&Car_Type=300&UID=20080612175054124.169.10.9

    And it's $180 for shipping so it's a bit over double which is consistant with most other sellers. Sellers on ebay are the same, a $250 brake package which has 4 rotors, pads and lines costs another $250 to ship. The crappy thing is it's STILL cheaper than buying locally even when you double the price to include shipping. The RDA rotors I'm sure are fine, but you can get em from Autobahn I'm pretty sure. I'd say Brembo is worth a little bit extra personally.

    We get royally screwed in Australia when it comes to anything even closely related to performance car parts, the Nissan dealer prices here are down right scarey. Supply and demand is a bitch!

    I've delt with courtesy alot when it comes to oem parts, you might pay a bit extra for shipping but it'll always come out cheaper than buying here I bet any money. Not only that but I recieve parts quicker directly from US dealers myself than I do getting something sent in from Japan to AU dealers here because it's never in stock of course! Well worth it I think! lol Plus they actually have half a clue about 300ZXs which helps!
     
    Last edited: Jun 14, 2008
  16. Z-Force

    Z-Force SHIFT_Charizma

    Brembo Package...

    I got the Brembo package from ConceptZ which consists of the standard size slotted + cross drilled rear rotors and the upgraded larger size 350Z/GT-R (12.75") rotors + adapters for the front, slotted and cross drilled. Also comes with Stainless lines for front and rear. Really nice kit and the best thing about ConceptZ is the delivery. I bought the kit along with a suspension kit and it only took 3 days to arrive in Perth from Phoenix AZ in the States. lol :)

    It's quicker than when I buy things from Sydney/Melbourne etc.

    Oh, and if I can suggest a brake pad, go with Hawk HPS. They are bloody brilliant. I installed the kit along with the pads a couple of months ago and I've never had to clean the rims since. There is hardly any brake dust and when there is it is only light and you can barely tell. Also the bite from these pads is awesome. I can see why most of the Yanks use these pads...

    You can get them on US eBay for quite cheap delivered. But mine came with the kit...they rock! :D

    Cheers
    Rob.
     
  17. RedZedMikey

    RedZedMikey RZM should now be DZM

    Hmmm, not sure if I can. ADR 7/00 was replaced by ADR 42/04 legislated in Dec 03 and in full effect by 1.1.2005. Designed to simplify certain sections of the ADR system. Now the only reference to standards in the text I saw simply states:

    [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]"15 BRAKE TUBING AND BRAKE HOSE[/FONT]

    Flexible hydraulic brake hoses, air or vacuum brake tubing and air and vacuum hose, flexible and hydraulic powerhose between the ?
    [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]Brake Power Unit 31/00[/FONT]? or ?[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]Brake Power Unit 35/00[/FONT]? and the master cylinder or its
    equivalent must conform to SAA, SAE, BS, JIS, DIN, ISO or ECE Standards specified for flexible brake hoses, air brake tubing or hose or vacuum brake tubing or hose or hydraulic power tubing or hose and be fitted to the vehicle as to prevent chafing, kinking or other mechanical damage
    under normal motion of the parts to which they are attached."

    Then, from another Aussie website (VSport) selling AP Racing kits with Goodridge lines comes this:

    IMPORTANT NOTE - ROAD APPROVAL FOR BRAKE HOSES
    In order to meet the requirements of the TUV, the FMVSS106, SVA and SAE 1401 standards for brake lines for road going vehicles, all fittings must be permanently attached to the hose. Reusable or threaded attached fittings may not be used. All fittings must be crimped or swaged to the hose whether the hose is rubber or braided steel. All Goodridge factory manufactured brake line kits are crimped and meet the requirements of the DOT and SAE. For full TUV approval, lines must pass a series of tests and be assembled in an approved assembly unit that meets all the requirements of the TUV office, including traceability. Consult the braided steel brake line experts at VSport with your enquiries.

    So I guess the Goodridge lines meet ADR 42/04 by being SAE approved, but whether full TUV approval (TUV = European testing authority) is necessary isn't clear.




     
    Last edited: Jun 15, 2008
  18. Chrispy

    Chrispy Pretentious Upstart

    That's to meet SAE standards only... Still another 5 to go by if one so chose.

    As far as I can see that note in the ADR is to stop dodgy chinese brake lines being used and nothing more. Goodridge would have had a hand in writing the BS standard and can nearly guarantee that ALL of there products would conform.
     
  19. sandeep

    sandeep Active Member

    The second set of goodridge lines by UAS has been sent to me, on the tag it says "FMVSS106". Maybe there is no ADR that says you actually need the tag on it, but how else would the insurance companies/roadworthy people know that your brake lines are adr approved if you didn't have the tag saying that it met FMVSS106? Short of pulling your lines off and getting them tested to show they meet the proper standards, which i'm sure the US Goodridge lines will meet, the tag is the only thing that shows that it meets FMVSS106.
     
  20. sandeep

    sandeep Active Member

    I've got Brembo disks on mine, slotted on both front and rears. Honestly I don't really think they were worth the extra money, I got them through my old mechanic because my old disks were below minimum thickness so i needed to replace them. That was the first week I owned my zed so I didn't know about any of the alternatives. I could have got RDA's for half the price or I could have got DBA5000's on the front. The Brembo's are a step up from stock but I really don't know if they are better than any of the other slotted stock size rotors. I think you just pay extra for the name but you do get a cool certificate of authenticity with them, and a sticker... so you'll gain a few hp right there.

    As for pads, I've heard good things about Racebrakes RB74's, good street/light track pad and not too expensive. Lots of info on SAU about these pads.



     

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