NA Block v TT Block

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  1. Barney001

    Barney001 New Member

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    dont forget that the Na block maybe cracked, we will have carry out some crack testing when we get the heads off
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  2. tassuperkart

    tassuperkart Its a lie I tell you!

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    As an aside to everything, First, if you oil filter blocks up then you have much bigger things to worry about that reduce oil flow!! like whats gone wrong in there to send as much crud around to block a filter!!!!
    Secondly, the oil filter itself is not a full flow type and has its own bypass setup so no, it isnt an issue!

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  3. Shane001

    Shane001 Well-Known Member

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    Actually Tas that's not correct. The replacement oil filter for our cars doesn't have a built in bypass valve (for example K&N HP-2008).
    http://www.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?prod=HP-2008

    You're thinking of the drain back valve?

    I can't remember off the top of my head what the equivalent part number is that does include a bypass valve. Pretty sure it's posted on here somewhere.
     
  4. tassuperkart

    tassuperkart Its a lie I tell you!

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    Errrm nah, these type of oil filters are not full flow. Full flow (toilet roll) type can concieveably clog but this type cant...or at least wont if the oil system is unmodified.
    I may very well be confusing the drain back valve with a true bypass oil filter that only filters bypassed oil more or less like only filtering the oil cooler oil in a TT. Excess oil flows straight back into the sump via one of those spring valve thingies My bike uses that type of filter.
    If so my bad.
    Either way, a clogged filter wont stop oil flow. It just goes back into the sump

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  5. Shane001

    Shane001 Well-Known Member

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    Agree, provided you retain the factory bypass valves in the oil tree or engine block. Otherwise you'll blow out the filter if too much pressure without a built in bypass valve (apparently hehe).

    Obviously on the TT the factory oil cooler circuit also acts as a bypass.
     
  6. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

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    Hey guys just a recap on this ANSWER .

    If running a NA oil tree on both the above blocks (with NA check valves or TT holes plugged)
    with a sandwhich plate and full flow system , they both work the same ?



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  7. brisz

    brisz Well-Known Member

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    I am sorry I don't understand what you are asking ?
     
  8. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

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    Does it matter whether you use a block with the check valves (NA) or the blocked off one (TT) when running a NA OIL TREE with sandwhich plate for full flow .?

    (Disregard the existence of a TT oil tree)

    is that better English for you :p


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  9. mungyz

    mungyz Well-Known Member

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    Run a filter with a built in bypass valve.
    See my thread on full flow oil systems etc
     
  10. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

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    thanks will check your thread

    but

    reason I'm asking is that I cant remember whether I used a NA block or TT block and don't want to take the NA oil tree off to see.

    just about to install sandwhich plate up and connect my coolers.




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  11. Shane001

    Shane001 Well-Known Member

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    First question, is the NA block pic you posted Aus spec or US spec?

    The US spec NA oil filter tree doesn't have bypass valves, the block has them (as per your pic).

    However the Aus spec NA oil filter tree does have bypass valves, which would lead me to 'assume' that the Aus spec NA block doesn't have the bypass valves, same as the TT block.
     
  12. mungyz

    mungyz Well-Known Member

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    I'm pretty sure you will see the NA oil filter tree has the bypass valves in it ;)
     
  13. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

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    I'm talking aus spec .
    above are just pics from Brisz.. so not sure.

    just want to know whether TT or NA block you just slap on a NA Oil tree and sandwhich plate and your done?

    no other mods required to either?
     
  14. mungyz

    mungyz Well-Known Member

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    All you need is at least one set of relieve valves OR a filter with built in relieve valve.

    If you are using a JDM/Aus spec NA filter tree with the built in valves then you are sorted, if the block has valves in it or not does not matter.

    If you have a filter tree without valves in it & you are unsure of what block you have run a filter with the valve in it.

    Clear as mud?
     
  15. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

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    simple question with a simple answer

    thank you .


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