Pretty sure he was referring to beaver's post. Note the featuring of the word 'greed' as a key point in both posts.
It kinda is greed. They are making the money but don't want to do the outlay, essentially preselling everything so they have no risk of losing money.
1. Its like woolworths asking the customers to pay upfront a year of grocery that they will buy. So that woolworths can pay the suppliers and so woolworths dont have to pay out of their pocket upfront. This doesnt make sense. If manufacturer wants to sell their products, then they have to ask money from local dealer. So that local dealer can hold the products for customers. Or sell it direct to public. 2. The time line should be couple of weeks not months or a year. Who knows where our car will be in a year??? I cant imagine, somebody wrecking their zed and after year twinz rear diffuser arrives. Hahaha that would be funny Its like i m going to make a time machine and can everybody put their order in. As this will gona take 5 years. And also pay me full upfront. 3. Twinz if uas dont want to hold parts. Then go and find some other local dealer. Or sell direct with little time frame. Enough said
Wow... general consensus... I'll add that it's pretty unproffessional for a business wanting to sell a product whilst not having stock. Someone used the word greedy and got slammed before, but I totally agree. It IS greedy. If you want UAS to be the direct sole agent here, they should buy all of that stock, and sell them individually here. This group buy over one year crap is ludacris, and shouldn't even be allowed. You wan't all of this money upfront, to sit in your account gaining interest for one year, while we get nothing? And if after so long something happens and you refund all of the money, you at least still keep the interest and we're left with nothing? That's like, If i call a restaurant to make a booking and I have to pay in advance, however, I have to wait to see if the restaurant fills up before i get to eat.... And if i don't, i leave them a tip anyway. You're dreaming man. God i miss Street to Strip. Elie.
In what Universe can you possibly construe that my post was directed at you(given that it followed immediately after the post to which I was referring)?? Essentially, what all you guys are bitching about is a Group Buy. Such transactions occur regularly on this and other fora without major problems(the only difference is the total cost, and the delivery time in this case). GB= 1: Gain a position on the list, 2: Pay a deposit(or regular instalments), 3: Make final payment by given cut-off, 4: Wait for the item to be delivered. No-one seems to have considered previously that this is "greed" on anyone's part(just the mechanics of a GB).
In a universe where not everybody uses the same display view as you do. In the other mode (or on Forum Runner for iPhones) your post follows directly after WA300Z's post. No need to be so dramatic, Lloyd
Hate to break it to you guys, but plenty of business out there 'make to order' in minimum order quantities. The way I see it, if you cannot meet the MOQ, then you can't buy. Generally the risk is passed to the supplier who makes this decision, not the end user, and this is where it is a little iffy. If there is enough people interested, someone should arrange to bundle the AUS items with the US order, get someone on the ground there to do the leg-work, and resell to Australia via USA. From what I see, twinz is trying to achieve economies of scale through their production run. Generally the benefit of larger production runs allows savings to be passed to the buyer, which in this case may or may not be happening. There is ~1000 active members here. To get this off the ground, 80 units would mean at most 8% of members would have a twinz part. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
That's it in a nut-shell!(and obviously why UAS would want payment prior to delivery/order). What business would lay out that amount of money for items that may not sell(once they have arrived in stock)?
Sure, but it doesn't usually rely on so many units, and definitely doesn't take one year to make. For god's sake, a new HOUSE is made to order, and that take 6 months.... ... they are pretty major differences Chili.
Therein lies the problem: Risk of low sales due to high price. Risk is inherent in business, that's a fact. Business should limit this risk as much as is possible- open to interpretation. It really is an ingenious business model from twinz perspective- sell a product that is above the cost of alternatives, reap economies of scale in manufacture and have ZERO risk. Where can I sign up :rofl:
Why should customer take a risk??? And wait for a yeay for product to arrive?? They are securing their future buy taking money upfront, before even making a product. Anybody(including myself) will be happy to pay upfront. As we normally do shopping. But we want our product to arrive within couple of week. Not months not years. This is unprofressional and iant gonna happen.
Even worse... 790 According to Forum Stats, and my arse every single one of them is always on here, or on here enough to be considered, as I said before a genuinely active member. I'd say the number is far closer to 200 as to members who spend a good few hours a week on here, and even less for the Forum junkies (like you or me). MoulaZX
If it's made to order, fine. Don't ask for a minimum order and take a year to do it. Set up the business first so you can take orders and make the product on a order basis. This is not what this is though.
Simple solution here twin z needs to supply UAS with a set of moulds so uas can organise to have them produced locally and twin z gets a cut per item produced, takes trust on behalf of twin z however someone could just get an original And copy it and he would get nothing
This would work out WAAAAY cheaper [TIS] Could you imagine the fallout from this, though! Chili would have an aneurism, UAS would say 'that's business', baz would be accused of drunkeness, and yellow300zx would call a conspiracy :rofl:
You got the last three correct, but I don't see any reason for my supposed reaction, in fact, I think that is the obvious solution.:zlove::br: