Cheap HID Upgrade for Z32!

Discussion in 'Non Technical' started by bluecube, Aug 13, 2008.

  1. LOWZX

    LOWZX Banned

    ill set "zed the cruise dog" onto him lol
     
  2. Scott Martine

    Scott Martine Rollin on DUB's

    Rofl, hows the nose? and the shiner?

    (Insert Evil Laugh)
     
  3. Scott Martine

    Scott Martine Rollin on DUB's

    im fast learning that there is NOWHERE to put this ballast's... any help?
     
  4. bluecube

    bluecube Senior member

    i put mine under the nose panel. not alot of slack cable but it fits :)
     
  5. Scott Martine

    Scott Martine Rollin on DUB's

    mmm i might have to try that, i dont want to go drilling holes into my chassis
     
  6. ZedEx

    ZedEx Dr No

    few cable ties and they sit snugly under the nose panel to the chassis. If i can be arsed one day i'll make some better brackets and mount them properly but i'm a lazy man see
     
  7. Tektrader

    Tektrader Z32 Hoe, service me baby

    They fit fine screwed under the head light mount.
     
  8. aazn

    aazn New Member

    one of these just blew in my car.... about 50 hours of use and one is dead.. gonna contact the seller now and see what happens...
     
  9. Scott Martine

    Scott Martine Rollin on DUB's

    How weird, you must have shit luck :p

    Nah but that sucks, he'll probably just ask you to ship them back for a refund ora new set.

    I know mine are still kicking away.
     
  10. SIM300

    SIM300 FAKE MODERAT0R

    Well both my ballasts where fooked, so sent them back... Only to have them lost in transit. YAY!
     
  11. Scott Martine

    Scott Martine Rollin on DUB's

    thats so shit lol
     
  12. jschrauwen

    jschrauwen My Fairlady Z

    Time to drag up this old thread again.
    I previously asked questions about the difference in the halogen H3C globe length in comparison to the routine H3 HID globe that everyone opts for (myself included).
    Although no one ever came back with a tangible response, I thought I'd ask again since some time has passed since those queries (page 6).
    The designers of the Z32 projector utilized the H3C globe for a reason.
    Although I'm no engineer, I would venture to say it's based on the optical dynamics present within the halogen projector. There's a specific relationship required as to the postioning of the globe relative to the projectors reflector portion and the projectors clear lense portion. When the halogen H3C is sitting in it's installed position, the light it produces has a specific focal point within that globe itself. That precise location of emitted light is accurately positioned in such a way between the reflector and the clear lense to produce optimum pattern and light output.
    Now, we introduce an H3 (HID) glode into the mix. The base of the globe positioning wil remian the same obviously but now we are confronted with a globe that's nearly twice the length of the original H3C. The precise point of where light from that globe is emitted relative to it's base is now further away that that of the H3C. In doing so I've now upset the proportional balance / measurement of where the light is emitted relative to the reflector base and the clear lense. What does htis mean? To me, it means that I've disturbed the perfect optical dynamics that that projector was originally designed for. This would result in less than optimal light projection wrt clarity and brightness. In other words, the emmitted light from those new HID globes will now not be properly focused into a concentrated beam because the optical dynamics has been compromised.

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    H3 HID Globe
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    HID H3C Globes
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    So after seeing the pics, can one see the relationship of the location of the filament within the globe in relationshaip to it's base. Does that same relationship remain constant between the H3C halogen and the H3 HID? If not, than I've made my point.
    Just to add a little fuel to the fire, here's a pic of a 10,000k H3 HID globe as part of an HID kit. Obviously, this is designed for foggies. Now comes the dilemma, when one orders an H3 HID kit. Will they get the traditional long stemmed globe for headlights or will they get the stubby globe designed for fog lights?

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    Out of curiousity, has anyone used this H3C HID globe for their headlights yet?
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  13. MikeZ32

    MikeZ32 das Über member

    interesting altho i've never seen H3C shaped HID globes.
     
  14. Sanouske

    Sanouske Retired Moderator

    ^^^ what you speak of is exactly the trueth.

    This is what i noticed when having to remove my HID with H3 globe to get it rego'd in SA. And use the standard H3C globes.

    The focal point is definitely shorter when using the factory globes, but this is what makes driving these cars annoying of a night. The fact that you cant see further then say 15meters in front, clearly.

    After reinstalling the HID units, the focal point has become more blurred. And the visual distance has increased. More of a broad beam affect. This seems to be regarded as an improvement but you are right in saying its not making proper use of the reflector and light housing.

    But for improved distant viewing, its something i live with.

    Clearly using HID H3C globes will be better then Halogen H3C globes, due to the enhancement of light affect. Using H3C HID globes, will allow you to effectively use the reflector, however your viewing distance would be seen no further then the standard H3C globes.

    Would be good to see if anyone is using these to factually announce the results, but its more so what your wanting to achieve. Greater viewing distance, or to upgrade the lights but retain the use of the reflector...

    I personally changed them for the fact it allows me to see further up the road. May be slightly fuzzy, but hey i havent the best eye sight to start with, heh.

    Be interesting to see some factual reports people!
    Cheers.
     
  15. MikeZ32

    MikeZ32 das Über member

    well since our projectors were designed with focal points for for H3C length bulbs, I'm quite certain you will get better focus if you can somehow get H3C HID globes.

    there was a bosch retro fit done by a member who was going to use the stock lenses but then due to the curvature difference with the bosch lens he changed the whole lot to the bosch stuff.

    best thing, get one and do a side by side test.

    else, simply get a little robber grommet and space the H3 long type HID bulb out. that'll get the focus back to specs although u gotta find a way to secure it.
     
  16. blueraven

    blueraven Active Member

    I did the exact same thing! I love it as well... took me ages to align both properly though!

    I pulled one of the headlights out and replace the gears with the model ones as well...
     
  17. Romonski

    Romonski And Justice For All

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  18. jschrauwen

    jschrauwen My Fairlady Z

    ^^^ It's a quote from an old post.
    This is an old thread.
    I just revived it from the last post from last January.
     
  19. Zeo

    Zeo Active Member

    Would it be easier to replace the headlights with the Aus delivered Zeds ones?

    After all they are/were H3s weren't they?
     
  20. MikeZ32

    MikeZ32 das Über member

    i doubt the aus spec ones use a different lens though. if not, then it won't make a difference.
     

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