91 Unleaded Tune

most people, everyone.. same shit we all know the point you were trying to get across

 

Not thinking clearly are you

I'm not attacking you mate but this thread started with a guy that had an idea, he decided to do something about it so he put some time into his idea he told people about it, you don't have to agree with it or go with it but people are going to do what they want when they want .so what if he wants to run two tunes or two types of fuels . It does not mean I want to or I would change how I drive my car or what fuel I put in it . if you don't like it or don't understand it then there are plenty of other post's you can look at that won't make you so angry.If you can look at some thing and learn from it even if you don't agree with it then your still moving forward.

 

thing about it is, i was being polite and didnt say anything offensive about his product until he got on the defensive and started mouthing off, and then 90% of the people in the thread jumped on teh bandwagon. thats the issue here. Have you even bothered to read what i have been saying or wat?

 

I think this is a top initiative on 90TTZ's part. Karl is always thinking outside the square and this project is another one of these initiatives coming to life.

Everyone has there opinion and can say what they want but continually bagging something because you dont liek it is just plain silly. If you dont like it dont buy it SIMPLE geez!!!!

300zxtt do you even own a 300zx Z32 series. I dont think you do so why do you even care. Once you have been around a while you will see Karl does some great stuff for the z32 community.

And Topher, Dont let em bait you Chris all is good.

For the record when do you actually drive around at full boost continually on public roads anyway. The only few times that running low octane fuel in a zed would cause issues is maybe travelling up a big steep mountain or carrying/towing heavy loads. In all reality if a safe tune can be developed and be cost effective at the bowser then why not do it, sure some power might be lost but who needs heaps of power while cruising around the outback or on long trips anyway.

90TTZ go Karl you Ash apprentice

 

Yes i have but your missing my point just let it go mate if he wants to paint his car pink with square wheels let him , and maybe you took the comment to heart a little to much thats all

 

nah i am just a 'dont take shit from anyone' person. someone gives me shit ill give it right back at them, regardless of who it is.

summed up nicely. good luck with the project.

with that i am out

 

topher is exactly right, there are alot of followers on this forum and most (not all) users with high posts clearly dont know shit all about cars (you know who you are). I haven't been here long myself, but it doesn't take a genius to work out who the post whores are. One just has to search some of the threads created by some of so called senior members to realize the low level of technical knowledge they have i.e "Making your turbo 'Spool' noise louder... "

The idea put foward by 90ttz in theory is great in a perfect world and for those guys that live in the desert who can only get crappy fuel then maybe it would be good for them. But in the real world if fuel costs breaks the bank so badly you need to do methods like this to get around then maybe you need to reconsider what you drive and HOW you drive!

People should be up for discussion, the pros and cons to modifications like this should be made public. There's no need to have a cry just because there's a little criticism, what the hell is a forum for? I'm sure 90ttz has done great things for the Z community, how about next time something to make cars go faster?

 

Lets get a couple of things straight.

It was 300zxt that said "this is a joke right". topher, you yourself said you don't take shit from anyone and I am sure you would have liked to give a response to something posted that was clearly degrading the post before it. That is simply what I did was reply to his feedback and also give a little back from saying my idea was a joke. Just from what I have seen you post, you would get very firery if someone said to you, your idea was a joke. Your replies after that just fed fuel to the fire and at the time of the morning it was, sometimes things are said that you regret saying afterwards and in saying that I have learnt a lesson. It is now clear that a lot of people will support my initiatives due to the respect I have earned from other projects, so in future I won't bother replying to negative feedback. I do this purely to reduce the likely hood of another forum feud.

But make no mistake, there is a big difference between negative feedback and constructive criticism.

 

I'm not trying to shit in your nest, dont get me wrong, I just thought it was a little nutty to try and tune a Z for that type of fuel but hey if people really want it and you can make a buck out of it then all the power to you!

 

I suppose that's the problem with forums dude, sometimes it is difficult to decifer what the poster is actually trying to get across. It's no wonder English is considered the hardest language because some of it lies in body language and tone.

And trying to tune a Zed for 91 would be silly if it was a permanent change, I'll agree with you there. Not much point owning a perfomrance car if you could not extract it's full potential.

 

Well we definately agree there, no doubt you're knowledgable to even attempt this tune and I'm not suggesting otherwise as someone else said. The same cant be said for people with similar post counts however, I'll leave it at that...

 

Can i ask what has post counts got to do with anything?

The way you come across is as a angry little kid... You are trying to tell us things we already know but are not listening to what we have to say... You act like a big mofo on the forum but in real life most likey are a scared little boy... Posts counts have nothing to do with the amount people posts on this forum... There is people who have been here for years with little posts count does that make them dumb? or is it people who have huge posts counts that are dumb?

You went out as if you know everything but were not even understanding what 90ttz was trying to do... Maybe you do kind of understand now but at the end of the day no need to try and act like a hero on a forum when you dont know the whole story in which case you did not and put people down.. You didnt like the fact that you got a serving now your trying to say that people with high posts counts dont know jack... Funny thing is mate your the one who has idea about what this thread was even about without reading the other thread... Want me to refresh your mind "where do i buy mobil 1 oil from?" Seems as if you dont get out alot and have no idea where to buys things...

You got fired up in a big way that you just didnt want to listen to anyone elses view in this thread now that you have had time to think you have a different view... Like what has been said its not like 90ttz is making the chips to run 91ron non stop its to switch between both 91ron and 98ron or you could have a 95ron and a 98ron chips... Not every single petrol station across aust sells 98ron you said it yourself you ran out of fuel and had to put in 91ron well who's fault is that not ours its your fault you should keep an eye on your fuel gauge... At the end of the day i think you need to sit back and if you dont like the idea its very simple dont post and dont get up people about it all... Telling people to buy a 2L 4 banger is not going to solve the problem or to buy a truck there is planty of 1.2 1.3 1.5 1.8 4 cyl motors around that run on 91ron and not all 2L motors run on 91ron without pinging the reason why alot of them are tuned for 95ron... We all have the same car here well most of us do besides yourself and a couple of other members but at the end of the day we try and help each other out not put one another down and try and think we are above the rest...

If the forum is full of people who have no idea why are you on here still? Just because you own a Z dont mean jack there is planty of people about in this world that own a Z as well that are not on this forum let alone even use the internet... I think its time you had a think before you did post and read what others have posted not just jump and click reply as a new posts comes up to try and better that person and put them down... There is a big difference between helping people out and just plainly putting that person down and thinking you are better then them...

 

The attitudes that come with them, you're a great example...

 

My attitude is just like everyone else that posted in this thread.. You are the one with the attitude that needs to grow up some more and not try and put people down... If you cannot read between the lines or even understand where we were coming from then i dont know what else i can say...

If my attitude was the problem on this forum i am sure the mods would of removed me by now... You like to put people down but as soon as someone else does it to you, you dislike it and have to put them down more... The problem is your attitude is the issue at hand and if you dont want to read what ever i posted that is fine but dont come along and say that people with high posts counts dont know jack and that attitudes are there problems...

I dont think even you read any of my posts at all... Other members did and every single posts from other members and myself are along the same lines just put in different ways you took it as a threat and had to back yourself up which in your case was the wrong thing and now say i have an attitude problem which is not the case here at hand its your attitude towards others on this forum...

 

thanks zanjara spot on mate... i never once thought that people with high post counts knew the most, that is obscene, to think that you would have to be stupid...

300zxt you seem the only one who even cares about posts counts, and as for all of this unessicary posting in karls thread, maybe you should read some of the forums rules.

i know people on this forum who have been here way longer then me, and know way more then me... but only have like 300 posts, dont assume anything based on post count, as some of us just like to socialise in the NZR part as a way to relax and cope with stress, in high loads of uni im there alot.

take your time and form your own judgements of people and develope your own respect for them. i have done this and i imagine alot of others have to, they know reputable and knowledgable people on here.

maybe thats why people were so quick to support karl, because he does know his shit... hell i was just reading his installation of series 2 ptu just yesterday, and he offered to unwrap his whole wiring to take more photos so people can wire it directly into the harness as he did! thats tops.

as for thinking its stupid to want to have good economy at a cheap price, thats just crazy... alot of people on here only have zeds and drive them everyday, there is no need to be putting out 260rwkw on the way to work and uni, if i could be running 91 octane throughout the week runnin 200rwkw i would be more then happy, can still use the go button and on the weekend i could switch back to 98 and OB and run 260+. if karl can design a SAFE tune for 91 octane... which is what this whole topic is about, which i think you missed the inital point, safe asin without detonation thats terrific.

this thread has gotten out of controll, and far to off topic, i like your idea karl best of luck getting it all happening. keep us posted mate.

 

You're weird, I never said anything to anyone in that manner until you and Benny_C started throwing the personal insults.

>I dont think even you read any of my posts at all...

You're right, I didn't because you simply write too much lol

Anyway I'm over this, the people who know what they're driving and know a thing or two about turbocharged motors dont need anyone telling them not to run low octane fuel. For the rest of you good luck!

 

not a bad idea .... but

i think $200 for a "de tune" is a little rich considering its around $8 for a blank 27c512 eprom a few extra bucks for a toggle switch, wires and a socket.

ok im guessing you would have put at least a few hours in on a dyno to get the tune, but all up $200 is abit out there unless you were going to do the ECU socketing for you customers . even then its still a little more then i would consider "value"

the only other thing that buged me was the word "developing" , rom switches have been around for quite some time. some as simple as a toggle to switch
A15 (pin1) between ground and +5v.

but hey, its a good idea for those who want this sort of tune. i just think the price tags a little high.


best of luck with it.

 

im with you

this thread has gotten far far out of control.
starts to remind me of twinturbo.net with constant flame wars.

at this point continuing like this is not going to solve anything. i'd suggest that this thread possibly be locked and a new one started for constructive discussion of the topic.

 

No one even said anything about running low octane fuel... Read what was said he is going to try it and report back about how it goes.. It and was said a couple of times by myself... Its a long drive from Townsville to brissie and along that way if people have to stop that petrol station might not even sell 98ron... As i know alot of petrol stations up in FNQ have E10 and only some have 98ron...

Ohh and btw for some info The VL turbo which was made by holden not nissan only run 91ron as that was the only fuel that you could buy at the pump at the time... Funny how the motors lasted for years before little kids got there hands on it and blew up nearly every second VL turbo because they were too stupid to understand the limits to what the T03 turbocharger puts out with mods to support the higher boost levels...

And btw i can back up my own actions that i didnt throw any personal insults at you at all take a read what i said... You ever heard of sarcasm

Going to say this once and once only...

When god was handing out brains you thought he said trains.. Good day

Karl i hope what ever happens to works out well and that the trip down the brissie is a good one...

 

And who's the kid? lol This is just too funny, man there's some characters on here. Now I see what poor topher has to put up with...

Typically this is the case, obviously not here though... I stand corrected, now if only they knew that themselves