'Z' - 3'' Dumps by SZ - now here.....

Not to high-jack the post but we did 'improve' on the design eliminating the possibility of cracks from an extra bulge which was really unnecessary and weak. No need to argue who invented what and resorting to the childish behaviour of the other forum. Plenty of parts for the Z have been updated by several respected vendors over the years with no mention of copying btw.

This is a viable option and competition is good as you can see that SZ has lowered there prices (still pricier than ours regardless). The delays show their inexperience in dealing with off-shore manufacturers and bulk orders.

Regards,

Vuk@AMS
www.amszstore.com

 

are u saying...

are you saying that your product is cheaper because u get it made cheaply and in bulk in china or there abouts?

 

maybe he does, but so does sz obviously, and btw, nothing wrong with that, provided quality control is working

cheap prices mean we win

 

Not a good interpretation at all

Affordable prices does not mean that the product is cheap! Our units are built without compromise even if that costs more per unit - we are not E-Bay! We have the connections and the resources to buy in bulk and that is where the savings come from.

Our manufacturers are all ISO 9001 Certified and provide products to the largest companies in the world including OEM! We could opt for uncertified plants but that is left for E-Bay and fly-by-night facilities. Take a look at some of Nissans OEM parts and their manufacturing origin. Better yet attend a Sema show in Vegas and witness where the largest corporations in the industry are manufacturing. Cannot avoid this!

Companies that operate on a smaller scale ( home) unfortunately do not have the means to operate efficiently due to several variables.

In the end the consumer wins as they have clear choices as do their wallets

Regards,

Vuk@AMS
www.amszstore.com

 

did you see this thread just above, titled ".....I asked....."

it includes the following: "the question as to where they were being made because the new price was too good to be made in the US. I was told they were being made offshore but SZ refused to say where."

maybe read stuff like this before asking that kind of question...

the bottom line is that the AMS has never stated they invented this, or even the wheel for that matter. but these AMS units HAVE been modified to prevent cracking and ensure proper fitment on RHD Zs, they're substantially cheaper than the others due to buying power, quality is not compromised, they come with a warranty, and they will be delivered in a timely manner as promised by AMS and as expected by the customer.

no matter what side of the fence you're on, facts are facts and those ones are pretty difficult to dispute.

especially during times like these, when gas and everything is getting more expensive, i'd be looking to save some of my hard earned dollars and/or stretch them further where i can. this is a way to do that. of course, that's just me...

 

Case in point,

I just went and grabbed one of my oil filters I bought in bulk from Z1 when I was there a few months ago.
On the box it says;

" Genuine Nippon Filter"​

This is the same oem filter used by the Nissan dealerships.
Now I flip the box over and what does it say;

"Genuine Nippon filters are manufactured by an original equipment filter supplier to Japanese auto manufacturers."
"This filter is manufactured to the OEM standards and specifications required by the Japanese auto manufacturers" ​

And finally, the topper;

"Engineered in Japan
Made in Malaysia"​

This all basically the same as what Vuk was saying. Although he's ensured he's acquired a quality manufacturer that will meet his product specifications.
Further to that, some of you may remember that as part of my engine rebuild/upgrade I was going to be using the AMS manifolds. Unfortunately, when it was time to put the engine back I was unable to have the AMS manifolds. WHY???? The first batch from his initial manufacturer didn't produce the product specified by AMS. The quality just wasn't there. Had the quality been there, I'd be using AMS manifolds today. As it was those manifolds and that manufacturer had to discarded and a new manufacturer found. It appears he's found just the one as his flow tests can testify too.
What manifolds did I end up using. Well, (shrug) I needed to get a set on short notice and Z1 came through with a set of MSP manifolds. AMS ones would have been great, but the MS ones will have to do....... for now.
Long story short, I think most of you will find Vuk and AMS a pretty stand-up Z parts supplier/manufacturer. As in the previous post by Street to Strip, SZ appeared to be a bit elusive or secretive about the manufacturing source. It also fits with the added reluctance to explain the detailed specifics on the delays of the shipping. I can only surmize that perhaps to the average American, if it isn't American made than it isn't of creadable quality. Those US Z owners aren't savy enough to realize that being competitive in this type of industry, means sourcing manufacturers off shore. Canada and Australia ahve been doing it for years. Our own home costs to produce the same product in our own country just wouldn't be competetive enough.
As in the case of the oil filter, the reality of the matter is that we'll be seeing more and more products from what we used to call "the 3rd world. What used to in the past be regarded as cheap quality and cheap prices has only changed slightly. Now it's good or better quality and still the same cheap prices.
How easy we forget that the first Honda's exported were cheap looking and feeling and cheaply priced. How things have changed.

 

Just a reminder

That this is a thread to promote a GB on the Specialty Zed 3" Dumps, and no-one else . I thank all those who are contributing. :zlove: The Specialty Zed Dumps will be available as I understand it next week. AND, I would like to add that I personally believe that Greg Dupree of SZ did not have any control over the delay in the manufacturing of these. I believe he is just as frustrated as anyone else, if not more so because he has money and reputation invested here. If he decides not to devulge where the Dumps are being made that is is decision and I am sure he has good reasons for it. I am a distributor for both Specialty Zed and AMS Zstore and happy to be, as they are both reputable businesses producing the best products that they can at the best prices they can to compete in a highly competitive market, and still stay in business. You the buyers will benefit. :thumbup: Those of us in the business will know exactly what this means.

 

Sorry Rob, you may have been paying too much creadance to the tt.net gang. They'll protect their home-grown boys through thick and thin, come hell or high water, regardless if the facts say else-wise.
Perhaps if Mike Smith got off of his butt and satisfied the demand for his product in a timely fashion, he wouldn't have missed the perverbial boat. His trickle of produced manifolds gave him the edge to maintain an artifical high price. Given the possibility that they were US made didn't help matters either. Retailers and personal buyers were always in an extraordinary long waiting process. People and retailers can only accept suppliers shortcommings for so long.
As I've noticed with some of the aus300zx.com GB's, it appears that it takes sometimes up to and even more than a year to go from start to finish. Wouldn't it be nice for all Z owners concerned to have that time cut to less than half or even a quarter, have the same quality product and at a cheaper price? I for one would say,"To hell with vendor loyalty" and jump on the value and bargain train. Loyalty should be a two way street. The vendor to his consumer and vice versa. If the vendor fails from his side, why should he continue to expect that same loyalty?
It seems pretty clear to me.
Rob, please don't take this personal. You may be an unknowing victim of that tt.net mindset when it comes to these sorts of issues. I find tt.net to be a great source of knowledge and expertise with a great bunch of members with the exception of a few that seem to run roughshot over the majority. Intimidation and control is the order of the day when you are a non-conformist there. Heaven forbid if you don't follow the party line when it comes to certain vendors or products. Thank God there's Forums like here and 300zxclub.com that are more receptive and accepting to the membership even if they don't agree with the majority.
I've rambled enough,
cheers,
John

 

LOL, and say one bad word about Z1 and all of a sudden your thread is deleted, or you are banned from 3ZC. Real open-minded that is, not like you have to conform at all :nono: :lame:

 

Actually all businesses selling goods in Australia are required by law to have a country of origin label on the goods which say where the goods were made.

I still think its best to support the companies who have devoloped the products (like SZ) rather than the companies who copy an existing product. Thats why I went with the SZ dumps.

 

PATIENTS

Good products take time, development research others . I want it yesterday. If you want a great product under development we weight.
I know its slow.. I haight it .

 

That's the beauty of freedom of choice.

And we don't have to qualify why we we chose what we chose. Personal reasons are exactly that and should be respected by others. Unfortunately, that's not always the case on the tt.net side of the world.

 

So stop trying to and leave StS' thread alone.

 

yeah, cause that NEVER happens on tt.net...

 

DELIVERY UPDATE.......!!!!!!

.......:thumbup: At last:thumbup:

........Last night I received definite confirmation from SZ that the new 5 bolt 3" SS Dumps are actually out of Customs and in their hands. I also learned that they did have them a couple of weeks ago but I was not informed To all the folks who have ordered and paid, deliveries will commence next week.

AND, I wish to make up for the long delay, 3 months nearly, by paying interest for that period to the up-front payers. I was not informed that this GB would take so long. If I had known, I would have waited. Your money has been in my bank account for that time. So, please, can you all PM me your bank details ASAP. Thanks.:zlove: