would it be possible to use a vg30det in place of a dett

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  1. peterjoh

    peterjoh New Member

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    and put both turbos from a dett on and stick with the single intake only reason for this is i can get a vg30det for 800$
    both are quad cam stroke and bore are the same both are identical aside from one has two turbos and twin throttle and the other has one turbo and one throttle
    would there be any downsides?
     
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    peterjoh New Member

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    Anyone suggestions please? (n/m)
     
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    peterjoh New Member

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    Anyone with technical experience? Urgent!
     
  4. shadows

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    it had better be a full and complete motor with computer ...

    cdi unit, all sensors and complete exhaust system, bell housing , AFM ,starter motor, gearbox.wireing, engine mounts. Thats i think about it.

    You will lose a bit of hourse power and a lot of torque.

    BTW you can get a DETT motor shipped down from cresta for under $1500 dollars.

    shadow
     
  5. peterjoh

    peterjoh New Member

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    not the vg30et vg30det it's not from the z31 it's some other jap car engine

    specs are only 10 hp and 10 foot pounds of torque lower 270hp and 270fp it was used in the nissan cima and with the turbos i already have it would be identical to the dett ie same bottom end but thats all i know about it just wondering if anyone knows more also this info came from this chart
    nissan motor matrix (it's the one at the bottom)
     
  6. J4Play

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    can't imagine you'd save much

    once you finally got everything sorted. how would you work the piping for the two turbos to the single intake?

    some differences:
    block is different
    forged crankshaft
    pistons/conrods different
    VVT

    can probably get a vg30dett for $2500 or so, and by the time you fit the vg30det, it would probably cost as much if not more.
     
  7. shadows

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    more info what shell are you putting it in to?
     
  8. peterjoh

    peterjoh New Member

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    easy and cheap

    a old intercooler from a gtr skyline i can get the plumbing for about 90$ for the single or a plenum swap if needed its better than 2500$ for a vg30dett from anywhere in adelaide and nobody will seperate the extras e.g.ps pump,altenator from the motor and thats the best price i can get without ordering interstate and paying an assload in freight
     
  9. peterjoh

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    how would it be different if the bore and stroke are the same

    and both are turbo motors with vvt
     
  10. peterjoh

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    here is a pic of a cima motor

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  11. peterjoh

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    info

    Displacement, cc 2960
    Engine model VG30DET
    Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm 255 ps (187.55 kw) / 6000 rpm
    Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm 35.0 kg*m (343.23 N*m) / 3200 rpm
    Power density 6.51
    Engine type V type 6 cylinder DOHC24 valve turbo
    Fuel system NISSAN EGI (ECCS) (electronic gasoline injection) with turbocharger (high flow ceramic turbo)
    LEV system (Low emission vehicle) No
    Compression ratio 8.5
    Bore, mm 87
    Stroke, mm 83
     
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    peterjoh New Member

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    Thanks for the suggestions/info
     
  13. IB

    IB ?????

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    Mayube you could swap upper and lower plenums?

    and keep the old turbos?
     
  14. J4Play

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    well i don't know about the cima engine, i

    assumed you were talking about the z31 engine.

    my suggestion is you get the $1500 cresta engine.
     
  15. innocentbystander

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    vg30det

    I checked out one of these engines 18 months ago with a view to sticking one into a MGBGT, The engine I looked at was from a Nissan Leopard, single turbo NOT intercooled,From memory the engine had same spec's,Lower compression, etc. as a DETT, only inlet/turbo exhaust was different.Don't know if it had an oil cooler.A good wrecker should be able to do a comparison for you.Line both of them up on the floor.- The single turbo(passengers side) made it too big for the MG,I went for a DE,Higher comp without the turbo and by getting rid of steer,aircon, and relocating the alternator it can be shoehorned into a MG. YEE HA!
     
  16. innocentbystander

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    Look at where they put the igniter on that cima engine!!!

    could not find a hotter spot if they planned it!!!:wacko:
     
  17. Blipman

    Blipman Beer hooves totally work

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    I don't think that's factory. I've got a Cima parked outside

    and I don't remember seeing the PTU there, I would have remembered if I did (cause I'm in complete agreeance Russ :) ). That might have been put there later as that's also not a Cima engine bay. VG30DET also came in late model Japanese Z31's and Leapards, might have been an option for Glorias (which share the same chassis as a FPAY31 Cima) but don't quote me on that.... it's late :)

    Ben
     
  18. shadows

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    have a look at the grill...its a datto 1800 .
     
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    yes that was the intention and the comp ratio is the exact same
     
  20. Eric (Holland)

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    No, is not plug & play...heads/lower + upper intake are different

    I looked into this as well.
    VG30DET bottom end is the same, so if you have a good set of heads from a TT you could basically use it.
    To fit the lower intake from a VG30DETT to the VG30DET you need to machine the VG30DET heads.

    -Eric
     

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