Turbo or Non Turbo

Discussion in 'Technical' started by chickmagnet, Aug 11, 2006.

  1. chickmagnet

    chickmagnet New Member

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    Hi people the time has come after waiting 15 years to get one of these ZEDS 32 i just would like some feedback on your experience with turbo and non turbo models QUESTION 1 what is the difference in Kilowatts is there that much difference in power, much difference in fuel cost... any advice on anything is appreciated..:)
     
  2. Wizard

    Wizard Kerb side Prophet

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    Depends on what sort of chicks

    You want to attract.:D :D :D
     
  3. 300luva

    300luva Barely Legal Performance

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    Massive power difference

    However my N/A is much more reliable than my TT - my n/a hasn't broke down once (major) in over 3 years my TT I have driven a dozen times in about 1 1/2 years.

    If you haven't got a lot of money to spend on maintenance than you would be better off going a N/A. Both of mine are for sale which ever way you decide.

    Nate
     
  4. JEDI-77

    JEDI-77 Jedi Master

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    some specs for you....

    TT factory specs - 208kw (realistically maybe a little higher)
    NA Factory specs - 167kw

    TT has way more torque....

    On street figures (and taking into account the age of the engines)

    TT power at wheels - Stock, about 170rwkw
    Modded, ranges anywhere from 200-300 rwkw...

    NA power at wheels - stock, about 100-110rwkw
    Modded, ranges from about 120-150rwkw....

    (these are "at wheel" figures, wheras the factory specs are at the engine)

    In regards to quatermile times.... TT's are a mixed bunch, with most on the forum I think ranging from high 11's to 14's.

    The quickest NA to date on the forum is a 14.5 sec. That was with 137rwkw...

    at the end of the day, the TT is faster, but the NA is no slouch. Both are great cars, the choice is up to you. Depends what you want it for...:) If you're one of these "street racer" tossers who feels the need to race turbo skylines and new V8's, then get a TT.

    Cheers

     
  5. CHILI

    CHILI Indestructable Target

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    Well, after that little gem of negative advertising, no body is going to beat your door down with offers to buy your TT.:eek::eek::D:D:zlove:
     
  6. Zedipated

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    Get a TT?

    If I was you I would get a TT,the reason why is because The 300zx is a very heavy car aprox (1570kg) You actually need the Turbos to get the car moving. I have driven a NA Zed and I thought it was like driving a family sedan it doesnt really feel like a sports car. Reliabilty wise it may be better but you should be able to find a good TT zed,just look around. check out the tech section of this forum it will show you what to look for when buying a zed. Also a TT would probably be easier to sell then a NA.
    Cheers Zedipated
    :cool:
     
  7. SedatZX

    SedatZX Tyranus

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    On carpoint it said that they weigh 1490kg.
     
  8. Gazza

    Gazza Active Member

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    With greater power comes greater fuel consumption and higher insurance costs and higher maintenance costs generally, plus the big one for me, an irrational desire to achieve greater and greater power through upgrades$$$$ (I would be another TT tragic if I had one:D ), these are the genuine reasons I got an NA.

    Almost no one knows the difference between the tt and the na from looking at them, and they both have awesome handling:p
     
  9. mafi-zed

    mafi-zed the resident hoon

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    you just gotta sit down and look in the mirror and ask yourself 3 simple questions..

    1. do i care about power?
    if answer is yes then get a TT, if no get an n/a

    2. do i care about fuel econ?
    if answer is yes get an n/a, if it's a no get a TT

    3. do i care about reliability?
    if the answer is yes then spend alot of cash (20k~) as shit boxes come in tt and n/a form, my tt is reliable and hasnt even had a minor hiccup in the last 2 yrs.

    i've done alot of searching through carsales and out of the 50 or so zeds for sale theres only about 3 that i'd take home, and they are pricey ones too.
    The rest im sorry to say, make it clear to me why people call 300zx's shitboxes.
     
  10. EvZ

    EvZ 1BAD300

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    I'd go a TT. Why bother otherwise. I think that it's a pity that Nissan released a NA version at all. It's a bit like the rx / wrx thing. It almost devalues the class of car. Imagine if Ferrari released a version of the Enzo with a 4 cylinder Fiat engine in it!

    Apologies to NA owners who are in love with their cars. Please forgive my bigoTTed twin turbo bias. "Twin Turbo" - it even sounds good!
     
  11. bigbaz

    bigbaz New Member

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    It depends on the variant ie slicktop manual NA is the lightest and i believe is the one you are refering to but how many of us on here slicktops so we are almost all heavier and add yourself to the weight of the car cos the poor thing has to lug us around to, not sure about yours but for mine thats a fair bit of extra weight
     
  12. topher

    topher Banned

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    i have owned an NA and a TT. the na is by no means a slug.. i laugh every time somebody says that. but yes the tt is more of a headache.. ever since i have had it.. its been in and out of mechanics AT LEAST once a month on the + side i havent had any engine problems just pissy ones like water pump etc whch could happen to an NA or TT but i found it funny that it happened once i converted to a tt :(. but also ran like shit because when th emotor was put in two hoses werent on at all so i had some major boost leak issues.. popped em in and the car is running like a dream :zlove: but The NA never had 1 problem.
    the only reason i really converted to a TT was power.. i was getting bored of the NA. so if power to you is not a problem i would definately get the NA. if you enjoy going sideways and speeding down streets dont get a tt.. let alone a z full stop. you will find yourself in a world of trouble if your one of those types and have a tt... i cant even accelerate over 2.5k revs in the wet or ill just slide. its funny when you take off from the lights like a granny in the wet and you see all these barinas not sliding at all
     
  13. JEDI-77

    JEDI-77 Jedi Master

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    no really..... its ok....

    us NA owners are used to getting abused by TT owners.

    I'll have to add your above comment to my collection of TT abuse..... cleary the speed of the car is the be-all and end-all of whats important in regards to the "class" of the car.... I'll have to pass that onto the thousands of car enthusiasts around the world...

    Cheers


     
  14. EvZ

    EvZ 1BAD300

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    Aww come on ...

    I didn't abuse any NA owners.

    It's like me saying that "i don't like people with big noses" (I have one by the way). The only people that get offended are people who have big noses and aren't happy about it.

    :)
     
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  15. bigbaz

    bigbaz New Member

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    NA is just as good looking as the TT in fact you could even say more good looking as the NA came in more variants than the TT in the form of the Convertible (Soft Top) model, i wouldnt buy one because i love the power of a TT but they are still a beautiful car
     
  16. buzz1986

    buzz1986 Ezekiel 25.17

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    my 2 cents

    One thing you got to think about is that if you buy the NA and you see a TT just so effortlessly pull away from you. will you still want the NA if so then get the NA for sure because remember a candle that burns half a bright burns twice as long but when it happens and you say to yourself I which I had that extra power then go the TT.
    This is only if ur budget will allow you to get on or the other if you cant afford the TT then don?t try, get an NA
     
  17. CrestaJohn

    CrestaJohn NEW 'OEM' PARTS

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    LMAO Lloyd!

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  18. topher

    topher Banned

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    also its not just being able to afford the car.. make sure you can afford to maintain it.. labor on these things is hella expensive
     
  19. 90TTZ

    90TTZ Back From The Dead

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    Reliability is no different from N/A to TT. Having a car that is 15 years + is bound to have more problems with it if it is not maintained correctly. In the 14 months I have owned a TT, I have pulled the engine out, replaced the turbo's, fuel injectors, had work done to the transmission and replaced the drive shaft but guess what, none of this was because it had failed or on the way out, purely self inflicted for the quest for more POWA!!!!! Also fuel economy figures are the same if you are gentle on the loud pedal. I average 500KM to a tank and can get up to 700KM on the highway.

    Honestly your choice should come to this;

    Do you want a car with power and looks to boot? (TT)

    Do you want a hot looking car that is a brilliant cruiser? (N/A)

    Both engines are great but don't be fooled thinking that the N/A power output will suffice when deep down you are like me, a Kilowatt Craving Junkie:zlove:

    Most N/A owners I know have enquired about converting to a TT.
     
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  20. tom@pzp

    tom@pzp www.pzp.com.au

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    every NA owner that i have met in the flesh (except for one who was a chick) said that they dream on having a TT... your decision.

    TT = looks + power
    NA = looks + economy + bit of grunt but not compared to a TT
     

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