Subframe bushes

Discussion in 'Technical' started by sleepwalker, Jul 18, 2007.

  1. sleepwalker

    sleepwalker grippin'n'rippin

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    How much does it cost approximately to have them replaced?
    I've tried searching but all it comes up with is DIY guides and tips. Doing it myself is not really an option due to suicidal work hours and lack of proper tools.
    What bushes have you replaced the originals with? Would you recommend them?

    Thanks in advance

    Tom
     
  2. ports

    ports the pro

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    You can always buy replacement bushes from Nissan, but a better option would be
    Superpro urathane bushes or contact Whiteline suspension. To replace all the cradle
    bushes requiers it to be removed, huge job. You can use "pineapples"
    that act as a spacer between the cradle and the floor or bolt flange for a better ride
    and cost about $100 and would be 1hr labour to fit and are very popular.:cool:
     
  3. sleepwalker

    sleepwalker grippin'n'rippin

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    From what I've read on the forum Nissan doesn't sell replacement subframe bushes and rather than using pineapples or spacers, I'd rather have the problem replaced rather than patched up.
    I'm aware that the subframe needs to be removed and it's a big job and the figure will be quite high.

    Cheers
     
  4. zed4life (zedcare.com)

    zed4life (zedcare.com) Ω vicarious zedder Ω

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    Figure on between 12-16 hours labour

    depending on who does it for most of the front & back bushings.

    The energy suspension kit from coz is approx $300US. At an average hourly ballpark rate of ~$75, shipping and current exchange rates you are looking at 'around' $1300-1500ish.

    Factor in a couple shockies, ancillary bits and extra time removing really stubborn original bushings and you are looking close to $2K. It is a big investment but the end result is a car that feels 'new'.

    Mine have been done and I'd do it again but I'd prob reccommend getting stock Nissan rubber bushings instead of the stiff energy suspension bushings if you are an old timer like me who likes their comfort :zlove: . Coz has the stock ones also.
     
  5. vbevan

    vbevan Active Member

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    I think energy suspension also do the bushes.
     
  6. tom@pzp

    tom@pzp www.pzp.com.au

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    I've got an Energy Suspension Master Bushing Kit in stock if you're interested... Just PM me.

    Oh and for labour, you're looking at around 1k for the whole kit installed (that's on top of the price for the kit).
     
  7. Mr G

    Mr G Active Member

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    If you don't mind a stiff ride :D then the Energy Suspension Master Kit is the way to go. Can be purchased on eBay and delivered from the US for under $250. TTZed.com also have them available. As mentioned, the installation is the killer, particularly on the rear subframe. Putting in some Pineapples might be the go if you're strapped for cash.
     
  8. DarkZide

    DarkZide New Member

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    what stock bushings are you having trouble with?

    I would just replace the ones needed with stock, unless you are having wheel hop problems from to much power. then you can do the solid collars which are very easy to install. the most common bushings to go bad are the front tension rod ones, and I would use the nismo bushings for those, and most z32 owners who are having traction issues install the collars in the rear. if you want to do all of them it will require you to drop the entire rear subframe which is a lot of labor.

    Good luck
     
  9. Claymen

    Claymen Active Member

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    Does that do all of them?

    Like all the bushings that would have worn out over the years?
     
  10. vbevan

    vbevan Active Member

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    I'll have to get some soon. My g'friend loves a stiff ride. *runs and hides from bad joke* :lame:
     
  11. scrawni

    scrawni Still Zedless

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    If you are concerned with it being a big job then you could do what I did,
    Get another cradle and have someone remove the old bushes ( I used a gas axe but wouldn't recomend this unless you are very good with one)

    This way you can get the cradle shot blasted and painted or powder coated and it will look good when refitted

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    Once the cradle is ready to go in it shouldn't take more than 8 hours for a good workshop to do.
     
  12. tom@pzp

    tom@pzp www.pzp.com.au

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    geez man, what a bad way to up your post count. :p

    Not all of the bushings, the main ones but not all. ES also has another set of bushings for the rear spindle/hub knuckles.

    If you are installing the CNC machined aluminium collars, you can buy the ones with the split in the top so you just have to drop your subframe about an inch and slide them in. Not a hard job at all.
     
  13. WazTTed

    WazTTed Grease Monkey

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    im running pzp subframe spacers. very neat product. easy install takes about 10 mins. and u dont have 2 go 2 the pain of removing the subframe and diff and pressing in new bushings
     
  14. Spinzzx

    Spinzzx spinzzx

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    Mine is a bit rough also but have no idea where to start

    replacing. Have been told my shockies etc are fine, so may just have to buy a kit from somewhere and get them put on as finances permit. Was trying to think today who had a kit for sale on here not so long ago. Good luck to you, I am in the same boat.
    Fran :)
     
  15. WhiteNight

    WhiteNight Littering and...

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    PZP just did all my bushes.

    Much firmer feel than previous, awsome!
     
  16. sleepwalker

    sleepwalker grippin'n'rippin

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    Thanks for the replies guys

    scrawni - i like your idea. i guess having another subframe would give you time to give it a proper clean and save a bit of money and you can always sell the old frame once you have the clean one put in

    I am having wheel hop problems with the car like many of you. It's very hard to put the power down with the wheel hopping and it annoys the living hell out of me. What makes it worse is the car is very mildly modded so it's not like it's putting out massive amount of power. I'd rather spend the money on making the car handle rather then mod the engine to get more power out of it that i can't put to the ground. I've got coilovers in it so i doubt the wheel hop is caused by worn shocks.

    ZRATED - PM sent

    Thanks
     

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