Stock pistons

Discussion in 'Technical' started by nick300zxtt, Jun 14, 2013.

  1. nick300zxtt

    nick300zxtt Member

    bracket has posed the question about what power level the stock rods are good for, so on a tt what power levels are the stock pistons good for. Keeping in mind that i am asking from a point of being safely pushed all day every day sort of cenario.
     
  2. bRACKET

    bRACKET Do Right Dean

    Wouldn't push stock pistons past 300rwkw.
     
  3. SRB-2NV

    SRB-2NV #TEAMROB

    On E85 i'd have no problems taking it to ~400rwkw on stock pistons. There are many cars out there making more power than that on stock pistons and they are thrashed daily.
     
  4. bRACKET

    bRACKET Do Right Dean

    Where?
    Ditchams motor let go at 290rwkw on 98 on the dyno...
     
  5. 3clipse

    3clipse #TEAMROB

    that was his rings though on a tired motor
     
  6. ryzan

    ryzan Moderator Staff Member

    That wasn't a tired motor, that was a bad tune.
     
  7. bRACKET

    bRACKET Do Right Dean

    I thought it was detonation?

    Irrelevant really, I wouldn't be pushing past 300rwkw on stock pistons.
     
  8. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

    Bad tune /detonation /old worn motor
    You can't blame the pistons .

    They will handle more than you think ,it's in the tuning

    I was pushing well over 300rwkw consistently and they were like new when heads came off..
     
  9. SRB-2NV

    SRB-2NV #TEAMROB

    This, i know of many cars putting out over 350rwkw on stock internals. Like Blackbeast said, its in the tune. You don't magically get to 300rwkw and your engine blows, an engine can let go at stock power if the tune is crap. Detonation or pre-ignition will kill an engine no matter how much power or what pistons it runs.

    PS: Ditchams cracked the ringlands, due to a bad tune. Detonation killed that engine, not power or "wear" as some of you claim.
     
  10. tassuperkart

    tassuperkart Its a lie I tell you!

    You can put about as much boost and power as you can make thru stock engine parts and still smile.
    Its RPM that will kill these bits, or as noted bad tuning. Not the power it produces.

    E
     
  11. 3clipse

    3clipse #TEAMROB

    Lol shh I don't want to hear that it's a bad tune :p his nistune is in my car ATM :p
    Lucky I'm not driving with it haha
     
  12. gibbon_tamer

    gibbon_tamer Member

    Same, had the same turbos and was running 15-18 psi at about 460hp and pistons/rods were sweet when I pulled her apart. Even had it goin at 24psi for a while. Check my build thread, think I may hav stock piston pics in there. Its all upto the tune, supporting mods, regular servicing and previous history of your engine. The VG30dett is a pig of an engine, its up there with 2j and rb26 I reckon, just a prick to work on.
     
  13. gibbon_tamer

    gibbon_tamer Member

    Also when you say "safely pushed all day every day" does that mean its used as a daily or pushed on track sorta thing? As a daily I doubt you'll be using all you the power youv got driving to and from work lol
     
  14. nick300zxtt

    nick300zxtt Member

    Gibbon, you are pretty close on both counts there. I daily it for periods and the car see's occasional track use also. I doubt I will be pushing more than 300 rwkw so when the time comes to screw more power into my ol girl i know the stock pistons and rods can cope. I also know who not to go to for a tune. Knock sensing equipment during tuning is a must!
     
  15. Rutger

    Rutger New Member

    The stock rods are extremely strong. Even if they break, it's most likely due to the rod bolts failing.
    Detonation kills pistons, often just takes a bit longer to kill them if they're forged.
     
  16. 3clipse

    3clipse #TEAMROB

    just a little heads up, they have invested in some new knock sensing equipment ;)

    Doesn't mean my cars not about to get a retune at MRC after only 8 weeks or so...
     

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