Hi Carl... I spoke to Toshi the other day. He also does the dyno tune as well as the road tune now. Was quoted $770 all up for us unfortunates that don't have NISTUNE. Takes a whole day to do the job / car!!! Toshi said that we need to ensure the car has no boost leaks before a tune. I think you and I might have a get together with Adrian and do a boost leak check. I have the pressuriser tool which fits into the intake at the front to pressurise the system which I purchased from CAZ I think a while back. Give me a yell mate when ready. Rgds Peter
Its actually cheaper Peter. Its $1000 with nistune Cool, we'll have a get together and check everything prior to tune. Pretty sure mines ok but good to check.
As I was saying when you were over the other day, a dyno tune is going to be better than a road tune for the sole reason that you can hold it on specific rev ranges and make adjustments without the risk of having any disturbances.. Also, where can you tune 6500rpm in 3rd or 4th legally on the road? This $700 road tune could cost significantly more if you get caught $1100 at MRC if you don't have a nistune fitted.. Thats for the board, installation, and a tune. If you have the board fitted already, it is $700 for the tune
Lets see; One scenario gives you Complete control of load point, any rpm, any gear Real time feedback An array of diagnostic tools Complete control of environmental factors What is there to think about?
im all for saving costs but the one thing a dyno can do extremely well is tune timing. I believe this is one of the most critical points of the tune and a dyno is a must. seriously considered road tuning but even with my car shit just gets way out of hand let alone something like rob260's.
I would actually say timing is THE most important part of the tune, air/fuel isn't difficult to set but tuning ignition timing is a lot more risky.
Not really "Complete control of environmental factors" at 6000rpm in third, how do you get a fan to blow at 160-180 mph into two intercoolers or even one.
That's a good point but also kind of irrelevant. The purpose of intercoolers is to reduce intake temps, and this is something you would monitor while tuning, and let the car rest a little between runs if needed.
Did everyone miss the point where Dyno tuning... is also included in the STD Toshi tune? Best of both worlds IMO. Peter
I still don't see why you would choose Toshi over the likes of Ben and Mark at MRC. Sure, you have to pay a little extra to get a nistune, but it is worth every cent
Thanks for all the feedback guys, Toshi has been recommended by many on this forum so I believe he would do just as good a job. I appreciate your input Eclipse and I fully understand all the comments so far. I'm no expert of course which is why I would like feedback. Also as Peter stated we have choice of doing either, but just wanted to know if real time/road tuning had any advantages or disadvantages. Only thing I could think of is the actual load put on the car when driven compared to dyno. But I dont have anything special so it may not be here or there when it comes to a tune for me. The advantages so far posted are well and truly in favour of a dyno tune.
Dyno or road tuning, you need a tuner that knows what they are doing. All too often, dyno workshops tune along the torque curve and forget every other part of them map. I have seen many, many 'tunes' from dyno workshops with only 2 rows changed from stock (I paid for one of these 'tunes' personally - $660 for 3 hrs tuning) Toshi spends all day tuning the whole maps and costs $xxx. A workshop might spend 2hrs tuning the WOT curve and charge you the same amount. But hey, at least you get a printout for bragging rights Anyone who uses Toshi will be very happy.
Thanks Mike, Toshi did state it will take most of the day. I have nothing to brag about so a printout will be worthless for me
End of the day man, it is your car. You are able to have it tuned by who ever you want it to. The only reason I recommend Ben at MRC is because he is the zed tuner in NSW Having worked in a specialty zed workshop for x number of years means he knows his way around the cars, and he would have learnt all of the little things that make these cars perform to the best of their abilities. I have no doubt that you will be happy with a Toshi tune if you do go that route, how ever, if it were me, I'd be taking a little drive to Castle Hill and at least having a chat to Ben and Mark at MRC.
