Piston compress tool. What to use when changing brake pads?

Discussion in 'Technical' started by Kabir, Feb 21, 2014.

  1. Kabir

    Kabir Well-Known Member

    Used old pad and screwdriver method. Worked well with bit patience. Took two hrs but better than $195 at shop. Thanks guys. Paid $155 for bendix ultimate. Did I pay too much?
     
  2. WazTTed

    WazTTed Grease Monkey

    lol ouch bendix ultimates are 80 to 92 bucks front or rear !!
     
  3. Instamatic

    Instamatic Active Member

    No worries, glad to hear it worked!
     
  4. CHILI

    CHILI Indestructable Target

    I've been using the "Brake pad/G-clamp method" for the best part of 54yrs, and have NEVER seen(or heard of)anyone experiencing that problem.;)
    By the time that you can claim a similar time period to support your theory, I WILL BE DEAD(54yrs beats 10yrs, hands down).
    Methinks you worry too much.:p:rofl::br:
     
  5. kakaboy

    kakaboy New Member

    Yes, I'm another long time "brake pad-G clamp" user. I also never had seal issues lol.

    But occasionally come across seized caliper pistons that need some TLC ;)
     
  6. tassuperkart

    tassuperkart Its a lie I tell you!

    Hah..Yer! Just wind the G clamp harder!! If it breaks, get a bigger one!!!!!!
    NEVER fails!!!!!!!!

    Also, what that old timer said a further post up!!!!!

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  7. Kabir

    Kabir Well-Known Member

    From where? Over east? Repco quoted $180.
    Bendix distributors quoted $155 RRP. Unless it is whole sale rate.
    Rears are $80. But fronts are more expensive if I am correct.
     
  8. WhiteNight

    WhiteNight Littering and...

    Possible to screw up the seals well enough on the threaded hand brake rears some euros have by applying too might direct force.
     
  9. tassuperkart

    tassuperkart Its a lie I tell you!

    Show me!!! Or, someone was using UNREASONABLE force and not square on!
    A brake piston in a cylinder with a static seal and pushed back reasonably squarely, it is IMPOSSIBLE to damage the seal. End of story

    Damage the piston and/or the cylinder by cocking the piston over due to brute force not applied squarely? That is another story.
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  10. Tektrader

    Tektrader Z32 Hoe, service me baby

    I wouldn't get too hung up on using Bendix Ultimates. Horrible and expensive pad that is filthy dirty. I have NEVER seen a set of pads eat through a rotor as quick as Ultimates.

    You would be better off buying a set of QFM HPX pads, Better, cheaper and cleaner. I would take the Bendix Ultimates back. They are the Ultimate FAIL..

    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/QFM-HPX-...=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item565320255d

    Use THESE.................
     
  11. Kabir

    Kabir Well-Known Member

    Agreed. They are dusty and chew up very quickly. Next time I will go with this one. Any idea if there is a reseller in WA?

    Found it http://brakesdirect.com.au/aus/contacts/

     
  12. QLDZDR

    QLDZDR ID=David

    All this g-clamp vs screw driver vs crowbar.

    I have used screw driver between old pads on smaller motorcycle calipers so I would have assumed that something bigger like a crowbar would be ideal.

    Decided to try the g-clamp centred over the old pad method (on the family Commodore) and it gets my vote. I loosened the brake fluid resorvoir and slowly compressed the brake pistons with the g-clamp to be safer :)

    Can't imagine something better than a g-clamp for this job.
     
  13. QLDZDR

    QLDZDR ID=David

    wish I had clicked Shane's link

    PS. I can't believe it took 2 hours (like Kabir).
    When I thought about it, I realised that the only multi piston brake calipers I had changed myself were motorbike and even then, I pulled the caliper off the disc and wedged and spread with some kind of standard tool.

    Commodores and bikes = quick/easy

    Looking at the Zed, I decided to leave the caliper on the disc and slide the pads out.
    Standard G-clamp and a piece of wood wasn't going to fit for this job. I tried to buy a sliding G-clamp (tektrader's pic) but the auto shops, tool shops and hardware store scratched their heads. Found it online and was referred to a local shop, but they didn't have in stock. They tried to sell me the 'bolt through the metal plate' style that Supercheap sells. (probably works great for a Commodore).
    Wish I had clicked Shane's link, I can see this work be exactly what I need, it would save hours.
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    I ended up using a crowbar (cracked the bleed nipple because the piston would not budge) and slotting the old pad sideways on the neighbouring piston and then slotting the new pad sideways while I depressed the next piston.

    So annoyed at how tedious the job was that I CBF fitting the underbrace. So take that Zed.[TIS]
    Next time, this
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  14. syntax_X

    syntax_X Zed Head

    A g-clamp is the right way to go about it.

    I've always been told using a lever can cause the piston to jam and score the bores as force is not being evenly applied.

    That being said i always use a lever, but try and keep it as center as possible to avoid any damage.

    If i ever had to do it for the Zed, G-clamp for sure.
     
  15. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    Man I've always used a screwdriver or a clamp or whatever was handy. Then the other day I bought one of these from Repco during a sale, and for the sake of $15 or less I'm starting to wonder where it has been all my life...

    [​IMG]
     
  16. Shane001

    Shane001 Well-Known Member

    No good for zed calipers though?

    These are only good for sliding calipers. ie pistons on one side only.
     
  17. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    GREAT for Ford Territory calipers though ;) If/when I ever need to change the Zed pads I'll buy something suitable
     
  18. QLDZDR

    QLDZDR ID=David

    I have seen these and agree with S
    These are useless for Zed calipers (or brembo from what I have seen).
    A single piston or one side with pistons style caliper, is what that bolt through the plate is designed for. Compare this to a g-clamp pulling the old brake pad in, also works for that style. Trying to use it on Zed calipers looked like it would only push on part of the edge of the pistons, which is the same as the lever/ crowbar.
    There doesn't seem to be a good way to use on a Zed, but I might not have the knack for the bolt through the plate because Supercheap says that all the mechanics use it.

     
  19. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    I don't think you read my reply...
     

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