On replica sport seats

Discussion in 'Non Technical' started by THEZED, Oct 5, 2014.

  1. THEZED

    THEZED Loose Screws Inside

    Forgive the rather noobie questions below:

    I am thinking of changing my seats, and I was looking at Recaros. Those things cost a pretty penny and being the poor bloke I am, I got to thinking about replicas.

    Question is, are replicas worth it? Do they have any problems as opposed to the originals?

    Then there are rails. These aftermarket seats don't come with rails. Question is, can we use our original seat rails or do we need to buy them or get them made?


    Thanks in advance for the advice to follow.
     
  2. Chrispy

    Chrispy Pretentious Upstart

    Provided they have the suitable safety approvals and testing (FIA or AS) then no real problem. Though second hand recaro's aren't that expensive.

    OEM rails will not fit at all.
     
  3. ryzan

    ryzan Moderator Staff Member

    You'll find that most replicas also have 'replica' safety approval tags.
     
  4. brisz

    brisz Well-Known Member

  5. ryzan

    ryzan Moderator Staff Member

    Saas aren't replicas, I think he's talking about the cheapies you find on ebay.
     
  6. THEZED

    THEZED Loose Screws Inside

    True that I was thinking of replicas, but if the SAAS ones are cheap, and looks to be reasonable, that's a direction I could head rather then the replicas. I have seen lots of Recaro SR3s for sale too, but they are mostly from Hondas. Just a thought, if I get those, all I need will be the rails to fit our Zs?
     
  7. brisz

    brisz Well-Known Member

    Yeah SAAS is not a completely crap brand, they will be around next week so their claims will tend to be more respectable that is for sure, but the price is in the range of the other crap so yeah it does look reasonable.

    I would email SAAS and ask if the SC one is "ADR compliant", should it come with a piece of paper or label ?

    Are any of these rails compatible with the Z32 ?

    http://shopsaas.com/html/seats_seatadaptors.html

    or would these be the go ?

    https://conceptzperformance.com/search.php?search=300zx+seat+bracket

    Any other recommendations for adjustable seat rails to suit ?
     
  8. THEZED

    THEZED Loose Screws Inside

  9. ryzan

    ryzan Moderator Staff Member

    Most seats and rails won't be adr approved, because it's big bucks for what is essentially a limited market. Genuine recaro gear is adr approved which makes it or the oem recaros an attractive option if you're trying to do it right. Or just throw a seat cover on it.
     
  10. brisz

    brisz Well-Known Member


    EDIT: Email to SAAS sent will post when I get a reply.



    Thanks THEZED for checking, I was about to go down and have a look.

    Mind you SuperCheaps policy on suitability for road use is:

    The other SAAS seats that are listed on SAAS's website as "ADR compliant", sell for between $250 and $300, given that the SC seat is "mesh" covered it may be possible, as I said above worth an email to SAAS to find out. If it is, how is that substantiated ?

    Even if the seat is "ADR compliant", it would still need inspection and certification to be legal.

    If you search SC for "ADR compliant" the only things you will find are some lighting products and a few steering wheels. I am sure there is a whole lot of stuff in store that is "ADR compliant" but SC would sooner quote the above.
     
  11. THEZED

    THEZED Loose Screws Inside

    So on this basis, I could technically get Recaro SR-3s previously installed on Lancer Evos, Honda Intergras or any other car which has the Recaro as a stock option, and from there all I need is the rails to fit our Zs. Speaking of which, how does one go about getting rails? Are they from the seat manufacturers, or do we need to get them custom made?
     
  12. ryzan

    ryzan Moderator Staff Member

    Yeah you could get them out of another car, I'm pretty sure the factory seat is an sr2 though (but who could tell the difference just by looking at them right). Rails I believe you can use bride rails although they aren't adr.
     
  13. _Robbo_

    _Robbo_ Active Member

    Yeah you can indeed, ive got sr-4s out of an evo. Was a pain to fit though.
    Mind you that is out of a newer evo. Any sr3 should both straight to a recaro rail easy.
     
  14. brisz

    brisz Well-Known Member

    Well there you go they are ADR approved.

    Good thing about new seats is you know they have not been involved in an accident and can with stand the forces they have been designed to handle.

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  15. Arashi

    Arashi Member

    It would be great if someone made a kit to take the existing seats and change the foam and form of the design to something nicer.
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  16. Sanouske

    Sanouske Retired Moderator

    As mentioned any recaro from any make will fit providing you source the appropriate rail. To which you can order from recaro I believe.

    I managed to pickup a very good conditioned sr3 genuine recaro for $200. It came with out rails, but I plan on using the Oem rail as this is for my r32 rally car.

    If you check out grizzly imports they've just received a shipment of copy bride seats to which are well priced. Now obviously these aren't ADR approved but for my purposes intended. The fixed back Kevlar low max bride will suffice perfectly well as the drivers seat. Threse come with rails also or suit r32/r33's. But are adaptable to zeds if needed. Price was $350 but under a group buy scheme.

    In all honesty, have a search around for some genuine sr3's. Honestly my ass hasn't felt more comfort and or stability like what it provides in ages. I really like stock zed seats, and also my impreza buckets, but these are a next level up. Genuine recaro seats have triangular gear knobs for adjusting the back rest. So just keep an eye out as copy's don't have this.
     
  17. brisz

    brisz Well-Known Member

    I would have a lot more confidence in something new and or something with some sort of testing, but I guess it depends if you are buying safety equipment or pearl necklaces.

    Anyone for a second hand or replica parachute ? :rofl:
     
  18. Fists

    Fists Well-Known Member

    Yeah, that would be my opinion. The problem with replicas that aren't certified under any standard is you have no idea what quality control or testing is is applied to them, in a crash a dodgy seat can be quite dangerous if it breaks too easily. Our seatbelts are attached to the seat so you're possibly compromising your seatbelt mount and if a dodgy seat breaks it may stab into you, fiberglass and carbonfiber products are still just reinforced plastic and require workmanship and the correct resins etc. to actually be tough.

    I'm planning on getting a bucket at some point and will probably go with a Corbeau or Sparco rather than a 'fancy' brand, I want it for the track not the street though.
     
  19. ryzan

    ryzan Moderator Staff Member

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    FWIW I'm guessing this is why Bride seats aren't adr approved... would be interesting to see how the different replicas fare in similar testing.
     

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