Master Brake Cylinder Brace

i never knew chili sold these ???????? which is the better in your opinion ???p/m me if you dont want to make it public geoff ,i only want the best as you know !!

 

Sorry Beaver

But you have made a slight mistake about Chili's BMCM.
It has a bolt that adjusts against the Brake Master Cylinder & the "grub screw" that you refer to, then tightens against the bolt so that nothing moves or comes undone.
Chili's does not have a "grub screw" against the Master Cylinder.
Just thought we should clear that up so that people don't get the idea thats what is against their Master Cylinder with a very small surface area.
Cheers
Kerry
:zlove:

 

Hey Ali

I'm sure that Vincent's product is probably very good.
And I don't question anything that he has stated about his product or it's effectiveness to produce the desired result.:thumbup:
But from past experiences, you get what you pay for & if you want the best then it's goner cost you more.
You make a snide remark, to Chili making "millions" Mate, if you only knew how far from the truth that statement was. He actually sold them at cost by the time they were laser cut, welded & highly polished.
And all done to help improve the braking of any Z32 with no thought of making a profit for his trouble.
Cheers
Kerry
:zlove:

 

Yes thats

right keza! it was a couple off years ago when I put the chilli brace in my car. My point was the adjustment on the chilli brace is at the master cylinder, and not where it mounts.

 

Point taken

Just thought that some might get the wrong idea of the components that adjust.
Cheers
Kerry
:zlove:

 

I've paid for mine.

I'm sure it does a good job as I doubt Vincent would endorse something that is sub-standard. I'm happy to be a guinnee pig and try it out, hell for that price it's worth it.
I'll post my thoughts when i install it. :zlove:

 

sorry

sorry Vincent I have to pull out as per pm sent. I have just decided to buy another 300 for parts and am copping flak from missus about spending too much money.

 

ps: the millions statement was a joke!

truthfully though it would have been a few hundred thousand

 

Answers to vbevan & lidz.....

Yes - the holes are slotted so you can adjust it within the tolerances/length of the slots. Hence why I said that when you fit it, make sure the bolts slightly bite into the aluminium. The slots are 6x12mm so there is play.

Hope this helps.

CheerZ
Vincent

 

im confirming

am definately 100% going to grab one vincent, will transfer funds tomorrow.

cheers, tim.

 

I'm not sure that it is right or proper for me to get involved in a "mine's better than yours" debate on Vincents For Sale thread, so before everything is dragged out of proportion, I'll say this now.

Anything that improves any area of braking on our Zeds, is definitely worthwhile.
There are numerous Master Cylinder Braces on the market and some do their job better than others.
My design was aimed at being a better alternative to the popular CUZCO type brace, and the target was to achieve that at a price comparable with the majority of other braces. I believe I achieved those aims, and with almost 200 CHILI Braces out there somewhere I think that fact is not in dispute.

I looked at this design which Vincent is offering several years ago, but at the time it was only available for L/H drive Zeds(and it was also made of S/Steel at that time, not alloy). It wasn't an item that could just be flipped over and used on a R/H drive car, and so it was going to need to be redesigned to suit our cars. This was going to cost quite a lot given the relatively small numbers likely to be sold, and so I settled for one of my own design.

My only misgiving with this design is the slotted adjustment holes, and the potential for the brace to slip forward if not tightened enough(the original one had an extra hole so that you could screw a "self-tapper" in to stop it slipping), plus the difficulty in getting it to push an already stretched firewall, back into position(something which became obvious after the first batch of CHILI Braces went into use).

The bottom line is, it is far better to use a Master Cylinder Brace rather than not use one(and it follows that if you use one, it's better to use the best available at the time), just be sure that it is adjusted correctly and that it doesn't move, otherwise it is useless for the job at hand.:zlove::zlove::zlove:

 

Thanks for the input Lloyd. I have no problem with....

constructive criticism or observations.

However, let me assure you that 1000s of this design have been sold in the USA alone since you first looked at them several years ago. None have been reported as 'failing' to the manufacturer or even returned. Still, I can stand here for ages saying this and only protract what has been a very long thread for a relatively simple and inexpensive item.

What shits me most about the entire reasoning of this thread has been the attitude towards pricing more than anything else. The belief that inexpensive = crap and expensive = great. Apparently as I've picked up some of these cheaper than what the recommended retail price is, and tried to pass those savings on to forum members, the assumption is that they are crap. Even your post seems to indicate otherwise, as it sounds like you would have gone with this design if easy to redisgn for Aussie cars. Well that's what I've found and tried to sell.

I bet if I had advertised them as made from hand-dug precious metals, crafted by the last Inca warrior and polished with the sweat of unicorns - and priced them at $120 ea - then these same sages would have assumed a higher level of quality. That type of reasoning makes wanting to pass on savings in the future highly doubtful. Maybe the more some people pay for items the better it is for them - it'll make them feel smart and secure.

Truly - some people seem to have more dollars than sense.

CheerZ
Vincent

PS: I'm having this thread locked as the braces are no longer for sale. I am selling them to local Z workshops or on e-bay, where interested parties can pay recommended retail price so they get 'great value for money'.