Improving off-boost performance

Discussion in 'Technical' started by Kieren, Jan 12, 2010.

  1. Kieren

    Kieren Active Member

    After my couple of runs down the drag strip, it got me thinking of ways to improve the performance of my Z before the turbos kick in. I guess this means reducing lag too, but mainly general responsiveness when driving around town.

    My 60' time was 2.499. I have a mostly stock Z. The only mods are Apexi pod filter, Magnaflow X-pipe and straight-through mufflers. Boost is set using a Turbotech MBC.

    Traction was not an issue at the strip.

    What are the best ways to improve responsiveness and that 60' time?

    Thanks :)

    PS. Yes I searched, but maybe I used the wrong words...
     
  2. Mclovin

    Mclovin Well-Known Member

    Get some N Power dumps and front pipes dude, I'm gonna. :D around $300 from ebay. High stall torque converter? ;) Of course if you really want to go silly a 3A pod since they flow the best.
     
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  3. Benny_C

    Benny_C About as subtle as...

    Best thing you can do (apart from upping the power from your zed, eg: more boost),
    would be working on your launches and reaction times. This takes a lot of practice.
     
  4. Kieren

    Kieren Active Member

    Reaction time was .177 ....
     
  5. MagicMike

    MagicMike Moderator Staff Member

    Can't be that hard to get an auto off the line - just stand on the go pedal :D
     
  6. Mclovin

    Mclovin Well-Known Member

    That's why I suggested the dumps and even the 3A pod, improving spool up time is what its all about imo.
     
  7. Benny_C

    Benny_C About as subtle as...

    Wow, very good. Well in that case, it mainly comes down to mooooore pooooooower maaaaan!!! :D
     
  8. WhiteNight

    WhiteNight Littering and...

    Reduce the weight of the car.
    Lightened flywheel, driveshaft, main pully.
    Lighter wheels.
    Smaller wheels.
    Electronic boost controller.
    Anti lag controller.
    Big dumps and full exhaust system.
    Twin intake.
    Nos.
    Tune the timing off boost.
    Shorter diff ratio.



    There's a fair bit there you can do.
     
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  9. Chrispy

    Chrispy Pretentious Upstart

    Bigger stall :D




    And a V8 :D
     
  10. Kieren

    Kieren Active Member

    Yeah but turning up the boost doesn't help when I want more power before boost kicks in lol :p

    That's more like it :) Now I'm not made of money so some things are out of my reach for now, but
    - Will an EBC reduce lag much?
    - Dumps, yes I'll be looking for some bigger ones eventually, not N-Power...
    - It's an auto so no lightened flywheel
    - I'd prefer to keep the crank pulley stock for safety.
    - Lightened/smaller accessory pulleys perhaps?
    - I have stock Z wheels.
    - No NOS thanks, trying to keep it legal here ;)
    - Leader gears are waaaaaay outta my league :p
    - Single intake should do since I'm not looking for big power anytime in the forseeable future.
    - What's an anti-lag controller?
    - Would something like an SAFC be good?
     
  11. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    Good. N-Power/Tuneagent/Whateveryouwannacallthem are shit.

    Good move keeping the harmonic balancer. You can get a lightweight Harmonic Balancer from UAS that weighs 4.57kg but they are not cheap at $570 (slightly less for forum member).

    Otherwise run race fuel and get silly with advance :D
     
  12. WhiteNight

    WhiteNight Littering and...

    -With a turbotech vs ebc I don't really consider it would be a worthwhile upgrade from what I've read.
    -The dumps would be a good upgrade in either the 2.5 split or 3", not the npower ones.
    -auto transmission I don't really know.
    -lighter pully are fine, some people kick up a fuss but it's right. You can get all the pullys lighter as you said.
    -twin intake might help the spool, hard to say and might not be cheap.
    -anti lag kits are pretty mean. Not really for non drag cars. Revs out the engine and the like, so during launch so you just hold the foot and push a button to launch.
    -safc will just do fuel. A real tune in both fuel and timing will help.
     
  13. Kieren

    Kieren Active Member

    Is using a UAS harmonic balancer alone going to give an noticeable improvement or, like most things, does it require supporting mods to make a difference?

    I am looking for engine longevity too so nothing silly :)
     
  14. Kieren

    Kieren Active Member

    So a 3" merged or 2.5" split is what I'm after? Or should the 3" be split too? I understand the longer the split the better as well.

    So something like the Bee*R would be considered an anti-lag controller? Should be fine as long as I don't consider entering a Drag comp since they don't allow them :p
     
  15. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    In all honesty I doubt it.... as part of the big picture I think it is a much better alternative to a UDP (I am using one) but I wouldn't expect a night and day difference.
     
  16. Chad_

    Chad_ Well-Known Member

    out of everything a tune will give you the best results you are wanting. they can adjust the timing etc and this will give you more response :cool:
     
  17. Benny_C

    Benny_C About as subtle as...

    Actually the cheap crappy Npower dumps are good "bang for buck" imo. (speaking from 1st hand experience) $150 for the pair off ebay, and gave me an instant ~12-13hp from stock dumps. ...and they seem to be able to handle big power because i've still got the same npower dumps with my new turbos and they're handling 430hp currently.

    No they're not the best out there by far, but yes they are very good bang for buck on stock turbos if you're not wanting to spend $500+ for another set.
     
  18. Kieren

    Kieren Active Member

    Something like the E-manage Blue with the optional Ignition timing harness?
     
  19. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    I would put that down to you changing actuator springs between runs.

    I had the same set (except sold as Tuneagent) and gained all of 1rwkw.

    Divorced section isn't long enough to make a significant difference to turbulence and they are quite small...
     
  20. Chad_

    Chad_ Well-Known Member

    anything from a stock remap and up will be better than a stock tune :cool:
     

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