Importing a 2K Spec ever possible?

Discussion in 'Non Technical' started by ugame, Feb 12, 2015.

  1. Fists

    Fists Well-Known Member

    UK doesn't look good, just checked three sites and found two NAs, one auto one manual, both look pre-94.
     
  2. Zeke21

    Zeke21 New Member

    As domestic imports: The last year for the Z32 in the UK was early 94 but all were still 93 models (ie pre electric HICAS). The rest of Europe (depending on country) got the 94-97 models.

    There are a few people who have imported later model years into Europe, but they are few.
     
  3. ugame

    ugame user #1

    So we have ourselves our own unicorn situation it seems

    Or great white whale
     
  4. ZDUCTIV

    ZDUCTIV Active Member

    I'd heard there was some idea of relaxing the import laws now that the car manufacturers will no longer be in Australia.

    Guess that hasn't eventuated yet.

    Will have to look into the NZ thing, have some in-laws there.
     
  5. stumagoo

    stumagoo Active Member

    be aware that NZ has its own rules to get an import on the road and it may be that a personal import does not just have to be owned but street registered in NZ. it may be more hassal than it looks.
     
  6. ZDUCTIV

    ZDUCTIV Active Member

    Yeh I probably wouldn't bother for a 99+ spec Z.

    2012+ GTR on the other hand...
     
  7. ugame

    ugame user #1

    From what I've heard, the rules are much more relaxed in NZ than here.
    But that's pretty much based on what they said in an episode of MCM I think it was.

    "It's on the internet. It must be true"
     
  8. jimmeyz

    jimmeyz Member

    Rules maybe a little more relaxed but not much, otherwise I think there'd be car dealers in nz importing them. Plenty of early models coming in all the time but never have I seen or heard of any 98, 99, 00 model zeds in nz and with plenty of 300zx enthusiasts there you'd probably no if one was brought in. I tried this myself a year or so ago with three different car dealers across the country that I regularly see bringing in early model zeds and all have said "unless they're 20 plus years old or a personal import from japan then no we cannot register them here" or something along those lines. If I can find those emails I'll post up.
     
  9. ugame

    ugame user #1

    lack of passenger airbag seems to be the issue here though.

    If this thread is to be believed, even when a 2K spec is 20 years old, we still can't import them.
     
  10. Vader

    Vader Just another guy

    Specifically, it is (edit: or WAS?) 97+ cars that require the passenger-side airbag.

    http://www.aus300zx.com/forum/showthread.php?t=278186

    Motor Vehicle Standards Regulations:
    http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2012C00879

    Motor Vehicle Standards Act:
    http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/C2012C00175

    SEVS Index:
    http://rvcs-prodweb.dot.gov.au/sevs/sevsindex.htm

    That last link takes you to here:
    http://rvcs-prodweb.dot.gov.au/sevs/012-00.htm

    For the Zed:

    Entry No.


    Vehicle Category


    Vehicle Make


    Vehicle Model


    Model Codes


    Build Date Range



    From


    To






    013/00

    MA​

    Nissan
    300ZX 2 Seat
    Z32
    1989
    1998

    012/00

    MA​

    Nissan
    300ZX 4 Seat
    GZ32
    10/1996
    Current





    Hmmm, interestingly (and only if I am reading it properly), that states that anything post-96 October 96 complies and can be imported.


    Here is some relevant info from the Regulations:

    Division 4.2 Register of Specialist and Enthusiast Vehicles
    22 Register of Specialist and Enthusiast Vehicles
    (1) This regulation is made for paragraphs 21 (2) (a) and (d) of the Act.
    (2) The Minister must keep a register to be known as the Register of Specialist and Enthusiast Vehicles.
    (3) The Register must be kept in electronic form.
    (4) The Register must be made available on the Internet at the Department?s web site.
    (5) The Minister must make a paper copy of an entry on the Register available on request by any person.
    23 Application for vehicle to be entered on Register
    (1) This regulation is made for paragraph 21 (2) (b) of the Act.
    (2) A person may apply to the Minister, in the approved form, for a road vehicle to be entered on the Register.
    (3) The Minister, on receipt of an application in accordance with subregulation (1) for a vehicle, must consider the application and must:
    (a) if the vehicle is eligible under regulation 24 ? enter the vehicle on the Register; or
    (b) if the vehicle is not so eligible ? refuse to enter the vehicle on the Register.
    (4) The Minister may, on the Minister?s initiative and without an application, enter a road vehicle on the Register if the vehicle is eligible under regulation 24.
    24 Eligibility of vehicles to be entered on Register
    (1) This regulation is made for paragraph 21 (2) (c) of the Act.
    (2) Subject to subregulation (7), a road vehicle is eligible to be entered on the Register if it is of a make of vehicle in a vehicle category in respect of which vehicles are not supplied to the market in full volume in Australia.
    (3) Also, subject to subregulation (7), a road vehicle is eligible to be entered on the register if it:
    (a) is of a make of vehicle in a vehicle category in respect of which vehicles are supplied to the market in full volume in Australia; and
    (b) satisfies each of the criteria set out in subregulation (4) that apply to the vehicle.
    (4) For paragraph (3) (b), the criteria are as follows:
    (a) if the road vehicle is not a new vehicle, it must be of a vehicle model for which vehicles were first supplied to the market, in Australia or elsewhere, at least 18 months before the date of the application;
    (b) whether or not the road vehicle is a new vehicle, it must:
    (i) be intended for first supply to the market in Australia as a campervan under the provisions of Administrator?s Circular 0‑4‑12 and:
    (A) be of a model that is not supplied to the market in full volume in Australia; or
    (B) be a variant not supplied in Australia of a model that is supplied to the market in full volume in Australia; or
    (ii) if it is not a road vehicle of a kind mentioned in subparagraph (i):
    (A) be of a model that has not been supplied to the market in full volume in Australia; or
    (B) being a model that has been supplied to the market in full volume in Australia, have a build date at least 1 year later than the build date of the last vehicle of the model supplied to the market in full volume in Australia;
    (c) if the road vehicle is in the MA, MB, MC, MD1, MD2 or NA vehicle category, it must:
    (i) be a single cab, four-wheel drive vehicle with an open work tray; or
    (ii) meet at least 2 of the following criteria:
    (A) appearance ? be significantly different in appearance to the popular class of vehicles in that category;
    (B) unusual design features ? be significantly different in sub‑assemblies to the popular class of vehicle in that category;
    (C) performance ? be significantly different in the level of performance to the popular class of vehicle in that category;
    (D) specialist publications ? be featured in at least 1 specialist motoring magazine in ?as manufactured? condition.
    (5) Paragraph (4) (a) does not apply to a vehicle in respect of which the original manufacturer of the vehicle has told the Minister, in writing, that it does not intend to supply to the market vehicles of that model as new vehicles under an approval for supply in full volume in Australia.
    (6) Sub-subparagraph (4) (b) (ii) (B) does not apply to a vehicle if the person to whom approval has been granted under section 10A of the Act to place identification plates on vehicles of that model has told the Minister, in writing, that the person agrees to the waiver of the 1 year period mentioned in that sub‑subparagraph in respect of the vehicle.
    (7) A vehicle is not eligible to be entered on the register if:
    (a) it is in the TA, TB, TC or TD vehicle category; or
    (b) it was manufactured before 1 January 1989.
    (8) In this regulation:
    Administrator?s Circular 0-4-12 means the circular of that name issued by the Administrator, as in force at the commencement of this regulation.
    single cab, in relation to a vehicle, means having one row of seats in the cab of the vehicle.
    Note for paragraph (7) (a) T group vehicle categories are for trailers.
    25 Minister may determine make, model or vehicle category of vehicle
    (1) For the purposes of regulation 24, the Minister may determine that a road vehicle is of a particular make or model, or is in a particular vehicle category.
    (2) The Minister may determine that vehicles of the same design are of the same make or model whether or not they are identified or marketed as different makes or models.
    (3) The Minister, in making a determination about the model of a road vehicle, must use as a basis the vehicle?s originally manufactured specification.
     
  11. Raheen

    Raheen Active Member

  12. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    Lol what a difference a couple of days makes, I thought judging from your previous answer that you'd done your homework haha
     
  13. scottyoz1962

    scottyoz1962 Active Member

    http://rvcs-prodweb.dot.gov.au/sevs/012-00.htm

    Going by what that reads, it would appear the '97-2000 model Zed CAN be imported, but once again knowing government departments and how some " engineers" operate, that could change tomorrow, or be abused under the " it's all up to me as i'm the one in charge today " syndrome.

    But would be interesting to see what the response would be .
     
  14. Raheen

    Raheen Active Member

    bah

    if I was going the back door (which is something Ive heard you are very knowledgeable about) then I wouldn't be doing a Z32 2000 spec

    Plenty of M3's, Caymans for high 20's to high 30's grand

    If I had more aston martin vantage is do able for 60 ish,

    Any number of 2 year old audi A6/7 for high 30 to high 40
     
  15. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    lol thanks for the offer but you're not my type.

    FYI the guidelines for "special interest" vehicles are here http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/factsheets/44b/docs/44b-special-interest-vehicles.pdf

    You'll have a hard time proving that the Z32 meets the required three standards. Maybe if you argued that the series 6 base model (remember a version R has too many doors) stands alone as a low volume production model.

    What you've suggested sounds very clever etc but when you look at the details I think you'll find my original response was far from "wrong".
     
  16. CHILI

    CHILI Indestructable Target

    OOOH!! you ARE awful(but I like you!!!).:zlove::zlove::zlove::p:rofl:
     
  17. Bob Lloyd-Jones

    Bob Lloyd-Jones Oldreverbob

    Work it out from below ?

    There were changes to the 15 year rules by DOTARS on the 12/5/2005, this import method is no longer an option for 300ZX. [SEVS require] In 1999 a more stringent emission regulation was introduced for Australia so 300ZX from December 1998 onwards will not meet the compliance regulation. The crash safety standards introduced in1998 require to have dual airbags "or 300ZX cars to be crash tested to pass specified Aust. criteria". 300ZX side intrusion bars were only fitted to doors on late 1992 models onwards so you have to address this problem on pre 1992 models for compliance. This is my understanding of the import rules by SEVS import scheme. :confused: :zlove:
     
  18. ugame

    ugame user #1

    Actually no. The only time it ran "rough" was when it had a bad o2 sensor.

    It blew plenty of smoke ;)

    There was a time that I "suspected" it was running on 5, but now that I've actually experienced a car that drops a cylinder (Hyundai Terracan Diesel) I now know that that ACTUALLY feels like lol.

    POS or not, it's still the fastest car I've owned ;) (not the Terracan lol)
     

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