i have an idle of 1100!!! O_0

Discussion in 'Technical' started by artin, Jul 4, 2007.

  1. artin

    artin ...there is no spoon

    hey all

    have you ever had one of those days where the Z is running just fine and then it decided "hey i think ill stuff up today, havnt done that in a long time"

    well i just had one of those days...

    i know what the issue is but dont know how/why it happend nor how to fix it

    i dont know the technical terms so bare with me.....on the throttle body you know the small metal part the throttle cable connects to which in turn pulles to open the butterflies???

    well that small metal part is whats causing my high idle i think for some reason...see when i just turn on the car it idles fine but as soon as i rev the engine that matal part dosnt go back to its original position, it stays "pulled" by about 5mm hence the high idle...i push it back down with my finger and it goes back to normal...this just started last night

    i thought it was the cable tention so i adjusted that a bit, alas no joy!!

    dose anyone have any ideas how to fix this??

    cheerZ lads :biggrin:

    edit: i wouldnt consider this a major issue but when your sitting in traffic with 1100 rpm at idle shes gonna drink fuel like its her favourite beer!! :confused:
     
  2. zedsr4me

    zedsr4me Member

    Sounds like you may have a frayed accelerater cable causing it to stick inside the outer cable.

    Cheers
    Grahame
     
  3. LOWZX

    LOWZX Banned

    Artin,have you checked the cond of the throttle springs,they may have stretched :confused: another thing is have you cleaned inside the throttle bodies,if they are gunked up this may be causing them not to fully close or to stick
    http://tech.aus300zx.com/throttle/throttle.htm
     
    Last edited: Jul 4, 2007
  4. beaver

    beaver southern zeds

    Yep

    clean the inside off the throttle bodies, behind the butterflies also, as best you can. To do this job properly, its best to remove them.
     
  5. artin

    artin ...there is no spoon

    not recently, no i havnt checked them...when i get home today ill give it a good clean and see if the problem persists

    in responce to zedsr4me reply: they actually did stick for a few seconds when i accelerated hard, although this was a long time ago, still could be one reason as well
     
  6. Baron

    Baron Active Member

    Not uncommon for the T/B actuators to Bind on the intake cam cover breathers. It sounds like something like this on yours. As you said you can manually reurn it to a proper idle. You have to find whats binding. Could be a multitude of things from pedal/cable/ cruise control/breathers/springs/TB's.
     
  7. maTTz

    maTTz 500 Club

    yeah... i started having one of those days every day for a while then i pulled the engine out

    that was a bit over 6 months ago... it's still not back in

    *sigh*

    good luck
     
  8. MikeZ32

    MikeZ32 das Über member

    my idle is also rather intermittent after doing a plenum pull.

    I'm just wondering if a dodgy TPS could cause the idle to get stuck anywhere between 1000-2000 RPM? I give the throttle a big blip it'll go back down to around 1.1k - 1.4k (still high). also doing that sitting in traffic tends to give out the wrong message unless of course you're simon (hot300) :biggrin:
     
  9. 300zxt

    300zxt Well-Known Member

    Did you just throw the tps on without adjusting it properly? If so then that can definately mess with your idle. The other obvious thing is vacuum leaks...
     
  10. artin

    artin ...there is no spoon

    yeah thats the 1st thing i checked when i got home last night

    mike: TPS need to be at 0.44

    mine was at 0.38...but then again nost of my electrical cabling is all shit n cracked in most places...this could be another reason....i prolly need a full harness lol
     
  11. MikeZ32

    MikeZ32 das Über member

    the TPS voltage is spot on @ 0.44 when idle but could that vary when driven around if the TPS is playing up causing idle to change? checked for vacuum leaks & cleaned the TBs already.
     
  12. yeti

    yeti New Member

    Another possible cause for your problem

    I have experienced something similar, the throttle rod mechanical jam.

    Check on the linkages on the rod for interference with a black breather tube at the very top front edge both sides of the engine.

    This can cause intermittent jamming of the throttle, dont ignore it. Your next experience could be wide full open throttle jam. Very nasty.
    My guess is it occurs because of blow-by of pressure past the pistons and valves into the upper head. The hoses are there to relieve such pressure but I think get pushed out when the blow by is excessive.

    I tapped them back in with a rubber hammer then two large cable ties to keep them in place. Rough but quick fix.
     
  13. artin

    artin ...there is no spoon

    crisis over lads...idle back to normal :biggrin:

    i gave the throttle bodies a good clean over the weekend and it was actually pretty dirty, guess thats why it wasnt closing fully

    the springs are ok as well as far as i can tell they havnt stretched or anything, not a big issue, ill show my mechanic just to make sure though
     
  14. SedatZX

    SedatZX Tyranus

    After driving hard my car's idle usually went up too 1,200 (for a second) then back to normal.
     
  15. artin

    artin ...there is no spoon

    yeh any idea why that happens??

    mine dose that as well sometimes, dont know why

    ...then i have a heart attack thinking something is wrong!!! :confused: lol
     
  16. SedatZX

    SedatZX Tyranus

    To be honest i have no idea.. maybe its a Z thing? Same thing happens with Chris's (Topher's) car.
     
  17. Zexual

    Zexual Zed Head

    i have a similar problem.. after i give it a good down shift the idle will change from normal 800-900 to 1500 and will stay there constaly.. i measured the tps voltage on datascan it chages from 0.45 normal to 0.56 when the idle changes:confused: .. crazy lol.. i dont think its the tps cause the voltage would fluctuate which would show an erratic idle not a fixed position.. Will try to hunt it down soon

    Cheers James
     
  18. PTR

    PTR Member

    High Idle.

    Have a look at the online service manual with particular attention to EF & EC-64.
    Diagnostic Procedure 1 - High Idling after Warm-up.
     
  19. artin

    artin ...there is no spoon

    yeh im gonna try and figure this out as well

    keep us updated :)


    hmm u think it might be a gear box issue....maybe it dosnt shift down properly, and gets stuck....im just guessing though :confused:
     
  20. artin

    artin ...there is no spoon

    cheers, ill have a look :)
     

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