FMIC with dual intake. Has anyone fitted without extensions?

Discussion in 'Technical' started by attila.Z, Aug 17, 2010.

  1. attila.Z

    attila.Z Awesome member

    ive got a fmic. Current setup is a single apexi pod. Normal afm and T-piece. Fits but i have to bend the pod down a bit so its kind of forced against the front mount.

    Have a dual intake ready to go on (elbow kit from z1). With a dummy afm. My two 3A racing pods arriver today. They looked big. I tried to fit a single in with the normal T-piece. I couldnt get it in.

    Just wondering what other people have done? If i put the elbow kit on, is there enough maneuverability since i can angle it as i wish?

    I know you can get these extensions for dual intakes with a front mount where they are now placed in the stock side mount holes, but ive patched up my front bar where the side mount holes were :(

    I assume they need to have the intake holes there if i put pods behind (not sure though, do pods need heaps of air?)

    So ideally id like to keep the pods in the normal area. Has anyone managed to fit them there?

    If worst comes to worst, and i have to get the extensions. I do have another front bar with side intakes, so can put that on if i must.


    Im also thinking if the current apexi fits, maybe i could get another apexi to match, since going dual doesnt make it any longer, just further across.
     
  2. Tech@EPR

    Tech@EPR Member

    This was my Z I owned years ago.

    I ran an FMIC with the dual pop in location. Never had a problem with over heating nor not getting enough air to the intakes. Surprisingly I ran 8 degrees cooler than normal with my FMIC. I had a Nismo thermostat as well as an upgraded oil cooler installed as well.

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    In order to get them to fit properly though you must cut the first joint in the intake pipe off (approx. 2in) then you can bolt up as seen above.
     
  3. attila.Z

    attila.Z Awesome member

    thanks a lot for that! Exactly what i needed, some confirmation it can be made to fit.

    Just wondering, where was the oil cooler located? In the standard position under the pods? Or relocated to side mount positions?

    Ive blocked up my side mount holes on the bumper, so cant relocate anything into there. Have to squeeze everything into the front end.

    Thanks again. Ill try test fit the dual on tomorrow see if it will fit at all.
     
  4. Tech@EPR

    Tech@EPR Member

    my oil cooler was relocated at the side mount position.
     
  5. Joe

    Joe Capriciously Crude

    I can't see it underneath the pods, so he probably moved it somewhere else.

    Let us know how you go. :) There are actually a few other members who are interested in doing this. ;)

    Btw, any reason why you didn't go with the Selin MAF kit?


    @ Tech@EPR


    Did you intentionally cut off just enough intake pipe to get the pods side-by-side? Wouldn't it be better to trim off a bit more off each side so that the pods are spaced apart?
     
  6. Tech@EPR

    Tech@EPR Member

    as I replied to his question..I said I had my oil cooler in the side mount location/position.

    I cut the length I needed to house the filters accordingly. If one wants to cut more thats on them. mine worked just fine with what I've shown. That car made 540rwhp on 93 pump fuel with all the tuning and parts I installed and built on that engine. Mind you I was making 540rwhp to the wheels on that pump fuel back in 2003. I was way ahead of the curve with that type of power on pump fuel for the VG engines. I was running smaller parts but had everything matched very efficiently.
     
  7. Joe

    Joe Capriciously Crude

    Yeah, you managed to sneak in that response while I was still typing mine :) I've edited my post.

    I'm not criticizing your work - I just thought you had ulterior motives for that particular setup.

    No doubt! - and I still look to your mod list for inspiration. ;)
     
  8. attila.Z

    attila.Z Awesome member

    i had a spare ecu which is socketted but has no chip. So i jumped in the last nistune group buy.
    Also overdue for a tune as ive done a bit.

    So I figured rather than spend the money on a dual maf translator, and buying another maf, id just hold off fitting it till i had nistune fitted and a dyno tune done. That way theres no extra cost of selin+maf, and it takes a second to change the value in nistune (a guess).

    So mainly money reasons. although i do think the selin translator would give a better estimate of air flow then simply having one bank measured and assuming the others the same.
     
  9. Tech@EPR

    Tech@EPR Member

    Hell I don't even think I have a mod list out for that engine from back then. Is it posted somewhere?
     
  10. MagicMike

    MagicMike Moderator Staff Member

    This kind of setup is when most users find low speed drivability issues - hence the low speed drivability kit as an option... The doolz intake gets around this because of the way both intakes merge to split the air evenly...

    You have been warned... (tho there are others who claim no low speed issues...)
     
  11. Tech@EPR

    Tech@EPR Member

    i personally never had any LSD issues. Though I did run a dual maf and SAFC combo but it allowed me to be a little more precise in the monitoring and manipulating.
     
  12. Tektrader

    Tektrader Z32 Hoe, service me baby

  13. MagicMike

    MagicMike Moderator Staff Member

    But that's not a true dual intake Teky...
     
  14. Tech@EPR

    Tech@EPR Member

    correct....still like the OE setup...no matter how many filters are hung off the front end of it. I prefer the true dual pop originally made by JWT.
     
  15. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    Atilla -forum member Ports has a setup like this (or at least had) using twin GTR intakes. Might be worth sending him a PM....
     
  16. MagicMike

    MagicMike Moderator Staff Member

    I have it on good authority that 2 x maxima AFM also works very well - and cheaper than buying another z32 AFM

    From memory maxima AFM's are 70mm v z32's 72mm
     
  17. Tektrader

    Tektrader Z32 Hoe, service me baby

    Ahh yeah I didnt read the OP's post properly.
     
  18. BIGRED

    BIGRED 90 z32 TT geko

    sorry to kina change subject but i have 1 question......can you simply connect 2 airflow meters to the one connection point ie: 1 afm bridged to the other which is connected to the loom?
     
  19. DVSZED

    DVSZED Member

    hey mate mines a true dual with fmic and everything in standard location ill take some pics an post them. im using k&n filters but no afm's
     
  20. attila.Z

    attila.Z Awesome member

    thanks dvs the pic would be cool.

    And rob260, ill send a pm to ports.


    Hmmm never heard about this low speed drivability thing. But did notice the kit for sale on i think z1. What are the other options? Pretty much the selin maf translator and two afms? Any other options?

    Maybe i can make my own balance tube (balance hose) somewhere between the two? Or is that not enough to avoid the issue..
     

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