"Floating" vs "Fixed" brake rotor/disc arrangements.

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Shane001 reckons they don't exist.

It proves they do.

 

Course not. I'm a friggen spazzo. But Shane001 does not believe me that on some cars, the wheel bearing retaining nut, also bolts the rotor onto the stub axle.

 

Yeah well thanks for pointing this out. But like I said, I only posted the vectra because it had hex/allen bolt retainer. You did say this in an earlier post about wheel studs. And I believe you. Awesome.

Yeah well I reckon this is a bit harsh. Where is your proof. Oh, hang on, I get it now. Your proof is in that I'm a friggen spazzo. Sorry, I forgot.

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I can confirm this. Rear brakes are usually drum AFAIK but when fitted with rear disc, yes apparently they were also floating. Which I also did not know. Cheers.

Again I can confirm this. Front and rear are fixed. But to be honest I wouldn't have known what's on a VB commodore. Or that either arrangement are called fixed or floating calipers if you had not made this post. So I have checked this and I am learning every day on this forum. To which I thank you all.

I have reason to believe Z32 does have what is commonly (perhaps incorrectly) referred to as "floating discs". I call them floating discs. Apparently the correct terminology is a 2 piece rotor. Unless the disc and hat are also 2 piece. I which case I would hazard a guess this would then be called a 3 piece rotor. Hat, friction disc and hub??? All new information to me. So what actual "Floating" discs are a different arrangement altogether are they??? Friction plate is separate altogether or something???

Probably not unless some spazzo fails/forgets to do them up properly.

I'll cop that. But I can guarantee you I am not uneducated. Maybe in terms of your love life. I think we can both agree to keep it that way. And I am well over 18 BTW. Even if I am friggen spazzo. Cheers, hope you and your wife had a lovely evening.

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Still prefer fixed rotors.:br::br::br:

 

But people call them 1 piece

But people call them 2 piece.

Cause that's all there is around these days. "Floating" discs.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-3013.html

 

W.T.F are you on ?. :rofl:

 

At least I have the decency to post a new thread rather than let yaz hijack that other dudes thread. I'm not claiming to know all, but I have my opinion. Least you could do is post something constructive, and answer my friggen questions

http://www.aus300zx.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1332289#post1332289

Frigged if I'm gunna sit here and be told fixed rotors don't exist.

 

Only the other day at work i was pointed out they were fixed ones on the tow vehicle we use for the train loco. It looks like a air port type of tow vehicle. I never realised they existed but was told other vehicles also have them although rare. I personally think they are a step backwards.

 

OMG. IMO, its all just cock and bull to get us to spend more money. Instead of just replacing the wheel bearing. Now we have to buy wheel bearing and hub.

 

Is it just me or has this bloke been talking to himself for 2 hours?

 

Probably longer than that :rofl:

 

OK, now you're just proving that you are an idiot.

I never said they don't exist, I clearly said they do exist on certain cars, and on cars that use wheel studs instead of wheel nuts they are necessary to hold the rotor in place when removing or replacing a wheel.

So don't make shit up [TIS]

 

Again, I did not say this was not true, I did say I had never seen it!

Thank god Holden wised up to this engineering debacle and didn't continue this into later models.

 

It is a good bit of humour to wake up to though :rofl:

Gave me a good laugh Always a good way to start the day

Thanks ZX_DORIFT for putting a smile on my face this morning :rofl:

 

Oh and plus zx_dorift..... Your shudder problem is simply a warped rotor/rotors.... Go get them machined

 

I don't know why I'm doing this but anyway, in the interests of education lol!

ZX_DORIFT, as posted in the previous thread;

Some pics & info on floating rotors;
http://www.zeckhausen.com/Brembo/Rotor_Replacement.htm
And another 'simpler' example of a 2 piece floating rotor;
http://www.stoptech.com/products/rotors/stoptech-aero-rotors

And again, the little grub screws you're referring to that bolt some rotors to the hubs to hold them in place, are not designed to hold them in place during the stresses of operation, the clamping force of the wheel against the rotor hat against the hub due to the wheel nuts/studs is what holds the rotor in place during use.

End of story [TIS]

 

Yeah, but you keep saying

Pure BS. We have established the early gen ford and holden use wheel nuts and that the rotor is bolted onto the stub axle with the wheel bearing retaining/adjustment nut.

Also some people call this "fixed" and as on Z32, "floating".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYtjFQcMwg4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5XrwxPfoow

But I understand all this better now thanks.

Sorry, but no you didn't. This is what you said.

Nothing about rotors with wheel nuts. You may know this but I cannot read your mind.

This is why make these posts.

Thanks 8300 done this yonks ago. Still NG unfortunately.