Brainstorming session - cutting out problem

Discussion in 'Technical' started by rollin, Jul 1, 2008.

  1. rollin

    rollin First 9

    Can we get a brainstorming session going here in regards to a weird cutting out problem i am experiencing.

    Symtoms - While boosting up from low Rpm at wide open throttle more often in 3rd and 4th but sometimes in 2nd it will completely cut out. It cuts out instantly untill the revs drop down or you clutch it and giveit a few revs.

    When it cuts out you cant rev itm it feels like someone has just turned the key off.

    There are no other symptoms, no loss of idle quality or power. and it will not do it every time, say about 1 in 10 power runs. it has never happened at light throttle.


    Tests done - New fuel filter, then fitted fuel pressure gauge. fuel pressure is spot on , goes up under boost and remains constant. Manifold boost gauge shows that no heavy spiking is occuring during this situation. I tried another S1 PTU, just in case, no change.

    My thoughts - Well i know its not a problem on the fuel delivery side. the gauge proved that. The fact that it only does it rarely indicates that its not a mechanical problem . And its not overboosting or leaning out. I guess that leaves us with CAS, ECU , engine loom and other wiring.

    fire off any suggestions even if they seem silly.
     
  2. rom-vg30dett

    rom-vg30dett Always Broke

    maybe a loose connector/s or fouled spark plug/s
     
  3. heavytrevy

    heavytrevy "Hammer time "

    Def not spark plugs.
    First peice i would swap out is the ecu .
    Also i would swap out all the electronics, ptu cas etc.. to rule them out,

    then move on to the wiring loom, its def electrical in nature.

    Regards
    Trev
     
  4. Chrispy

    Chrispy Pretentious Upstart

    AFM connector. Had the same problem...
     
  5. rollin

    rollin First 9

    if it was a connector it would do it do it during more situations.
     
  6. rollin

    rollin First 9

    did you really have the same thing? cutting out hard and fast
     
  7. Chrispy

    Chrispy Pretentious Upstart

    Yep, nasty cut out. Foot flat to the floor and it was as if the throttle was completely shut. Would kick in again after it got below the 2500rpm AFM level and then work againg for a while, then cut out etc.
     
  8. rollin

    rollin First 9

    Sounds very similar. Ill clean and check the connector tomoro.

    there will be some girly drinks for you if your right :D
     
  9. rollin

    rollin First 9

    i just cleaned the afm contacts. went for a good drive replicating the same situations and the fault was not present. 90% sure you pegged it chris
     
  10. heavytrevy

    heavytrevy "Hammer time "

    Looks like Chrispy will be getting some girly fluid lol :D
     
  11. ed300zx

    ed300zx Active Member

    AHAHAHAH lucky chris......ahah you might wanna re-read that trev :p :D
     
  12. BlueZ

    BlueZ Oldie but a goodie

    AFM?

    I wouldn't be surprised if it was the AFM itself. I've seen some weird symptoms over the years. One Z would cut out doing left hand turns but worked OK otherwise. Replacement AFM fixed it.
    I'd try replacing the AFM with a spare if you have one, or can borrow it for a while.
     
  13. Tektrader

    Tektrader Z32 Hoe, service me baby

  14. pmack

    pmack Member

    Cutting out

    I had a similar problem , Check ,swap ptu , and check turbo timer/imobiliser/ wiring . good luck
     
  15. rollin

    rollin First 9

    Those threads seem to be the same problems but i find only more questions, not answers.

    How did you fix yours tekkie?
     
  16. rollin

    rollin First 9

    Still doing it this morning. sorry chris, didnt get it this time
     
  17. tom@pzp

    tom@pzp www.pzp.com.au

    I'll put down a 20 buck bet that you're hitting the stock max theoretical pulse width! If the max TP is reached (normally due to more boost/breather mods and no tune) the ecu will cut spark and you'll be like... WTF was that!??!?!
     
  18. AndyMac

    AndyMac Better than you

    Play with the CAS connector when idling, if it stumbles or cuts then the connector needs to be fixed or replaced. I had this symptom on the black car.

    Could also be as mentioned your hitting max airflow limit set in the ecu (so many argue with this) If you've really wound up the boost and this figure hasn't been changed then you'll hit it around the 18lb mark.
     
  19. rollin

    rollin First 9

    I think you guys may be right, the car is going so well that just before it cuts out you feel like your going to go forward in time! The ECU has been retuned so i was hoping i wouldnt encounter this sort of thing.

    It spins 2nd gear in the dry when it hits full boost.
     
  20. Tektrader

    Tektrader Z32 Hoe, service me baby

    In the end, It turned out my boost gauge was reading low, and I was boosting to 18 psi when it should have been 13 odd.

    I readjusted the manual Boost controller to 13 PSI problem disspeared.

    Expect it is a fuel pump issue which will rear its head again when I put the 650's in and push the stock turbos back to 18 PSI.

    I recon Zrated has a valid point. I would have been way past max pulse width on the injectors. The car was a missile right up till it cut and you would get thrown forward in the seat when the cut came.
     
    Last edited: Jul 2, 2008

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