Braided Brake Lines

Discussion in 'Technical' started by RED X, Oct 17, 2011.

  1. RED X

    RED X Member

    Greetings :zlove:

    Wondering,.

    What are the advantages of having braided brake lines fitted,
    & what is the best type (brand) for the Z, and how hard are these to install ?



    I offer my thanks.
     
  2. brisz

    brisz Well-Known Member

    Your tyre fitter will think your fully sik. ;)
     
  3. WhiteNight

    WhiteNight Littering and...

    For a regular street car.. nothing..

    If around a track then it has its advantages... when the fluid heats it it means the lines dont expand with the fluid.. less spongy breaks..


    Also technically illegal if not ADR approved. Z1 have a 'sheathed' one which could be mistaken for non-modified in an inspection :)
     
  4. RED X

    RED X Member

    Hahaha,.

    Are they a bad thing Brisz ?

    Im just looking to improve the quality of my Z.
    I'll buy them only if they help.
     
  5. beaver

    beaver southern zeds

    For street

    use F/A, Goodrich are a good brand, get a brake brace better bang for buck.
     
  6. RED X

    RED X Member

    Thank you WhiteNight.

    I do not use my Z for the track, however if i ever do, this would seem a good advantage.

    Are these hard to install ? How are some braided lines different from others on the market ?
     
  7. RED X

    RED X Member

    Unfortunatly i cannot give thanks in Tech section,

    So instead i give you love :zlove::zlove::zlove:

    Can i ask, what is F/A ?

    Appreciate your input. This concept is new to me.
     
  8. brisz

    brisz Well-Known Member

    EDIT:

    Well from my seat of the pants survey there are more instances of braided brake lines failing then OEM. A large slice is poorly fitted/sized etc.

    I had an OEM line fail on a VP Commodore years ago, about 3 months after I spotted my car on the hoist with the front calipers dangling by the lines, shame on you Brock Shop. :mad:

    You can get a full set of OEM from the US for about $140.

    I reckon a big part of the "improvement" people claim with braided lines is the effect of bleeding when they are fitted.

    What kind of brake line does a GTR R35/Lamborghini/Veyron use ?
     
  9. beaver

    beaver southern zeds

    Some

    braided lines are not adr approved so you may be defected, there easy to install. You can thank people zrt, some of us have it turned of though, like me:zlove:
     
  10. RED X

    RED X Member

    Wow !

    Im maybe interested in purchasing these,. If it makes bleeding brakes more effective.
     
  11. RED X

    RED X Member

    You are a good man,.

    Goodrich is a good brand you say,. What is meant by F/A ?
     
  12. WhiteNight

    WhiteNight Littering and...

    It doesnt make bleeding more effective.

    He was saying that just in changing the lines over and bleeding the system. The bleeding does more good than changing the lines. A line is just a line.. Just braded lines dont expant with heat as readily..
     
  13. RED X

    RED X Member

    I see,.. Hmmmm


    To spend the money, or to not spend the money.....
     
  14. beaver

    beaver southern zeds

    It

    means F--k all:eek:, or 9.9/10ths near enough to it. To my knowledge.Goodrich are adr approved, there's a yellow tag on them that tells you that.


     
  15. parker

    parker Been around for a bit

    heat has little to do with the expansion of the lines

    Trying not to sound like a wanker here, but the majority of the expansion in brake lines comes from the pressure inside the line. On a motorbike it is very easy to demonstrate as when you squeeze the front brake grab the line at the same time. If it's not a braided line you can feel it swell up between your grip. With braided this does not happen. You get more feel and makes stopping more precise. As for more power or better braking. I don't know as I am not a mad scientist. Chrispy....Eric...chime in lol
     
  16. Chrispy

    Chrispy Pretentious Upstart

    To meet the ADR's the lines just have to be made to a reputable international standard.

    I have them, it made installing the Brembo's easy and they are pretty sexy! :D
     
  17. zx299

    zx299 Well-Known Member

    SS lines will make a HUGE difference....

    Oem brake hoses are rubber with a hessian weave impregnated inside the rubber for strength, whereas the SS braided hoses are Telfon tubing with braided SS weave around the outside of the tubing.

    Physics will dictate that the SS braided set will be far superior in withstanding both pressure and temperature. Add to this the fact that most zeds will have 15-20yr old oem rubber/hessian hoses :eek: and it is a "no brainer". SS braided wins by a country mile.

    Even replacing your 20yr old hoses with new oem ones would make a noticeable difference to your braking :cool:, I was once told by a "brake specialist" that 5-6 yrs is the efficient life expectancy of the oem hoses.
     
  18. brisz

    brisz Well-Known Member

    I think this also contributes to the idea that braided lines make a huge improvement.

     
  19. RED X

    RED X Member

    To buy, it is.

    Doesn't hurt to have better brakes. Track or Street,.

    Replacing the old OEM rubber is a good point, and a no brainer.

    However these braided lines are hell expensive.
     
  20. beaver

    beaver southern zeds

    true and

    as you've said, bleeding out old B fluid and replacing it with new fluid makes a noticeable difference to all round pedal feel and stopping performance. Nothing wrong with ss lines for your brakes, go for it, can't hurt, but i'd get a brake brace first, and go from there.





     

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