Boil the rice and break out the happy gas !

Discussion in 'Technical' started by Psycho, May 12, 2004.

  1. Psycho

    Psycho Insurance Underwriter

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    Ok spent about 5 hours with my mechanic today (self employment has its benefits :p) trying to figure out how to make the engine sniff things faster and make more neddies and keep the price reasonable, all the options were discussed we have debated in my last post, full TT transplant from a front cut, and the infamous underbonnet supercharger issue, the main point of this was to goto the occasional street meet and not get dusted by boy racers. Then like a shot out of the blue it came to us, three simple letters
    NOS !!!<P>Yes it will serve its purpose, wont kill the engine as long as the horsepower is kept to an acceptable level (75 to 100hp)
    match this with full kit in the gearbox headers larger injector nozzles and full exhaust upgrade and Wolf 3d or simular to manage it it should pull a respectable time and not destroy itself.<P>if anyone has any feedback on this please feel free to post it as i will give it a few days before i pull it off the road for its respray and mods nothing is set in stone yet but it looks ok.<P>Just a big thanks to the guys who had input into my last post (Brad and Nathan) your input was very much taken on board and respected, your rides speak volumes.<P>regards
    Lex
    aka Psycho 8D
     
  2. 300luva

    300luva Barely Legal Performance

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    I'd personally go the supercharger

    I looked at this same issue and you have to consider how often you want the extra power. Are you going to be running NOS all the time? A supercharger can get up to 60% (so i've heard more power out of your engine) so you are around 350hp but with no turbo lag! It's a matter of opinion but just last night I raced a 200sx with NOS (only know this cause a blue flame came out the back of his exhaust) and I smoked him twice. My ride is by no means fast but a supercharger would just add the extra unique feel to your Zed.P.S. Some Superchargers are now made with clutch belts so you can turn them off or on to minimize fuel consumption.
     
  3. JT@work

    JT@work New Member

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    LMAO=)

    If that 200sx had NOS he would have destroyed you!
    probably just poorly tuned hence the flame.
     
  4. 300luva

    300luva Barely Legal Performance

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    Don't think it was a turbo

    Couldn't hear anything like a turbo or BOV!
     
  5. zed4life (zedcare.com)

    zed4life (zedcare.com) Ω vicarious zedder Ω

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    Ask Colin Brodie what he thinks about NOS:N( (n/m)

    N/M
     
  6. JT@work

    JT@work New Member

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    all 200sx are turbo (n/m)

    N/M
     
  7. Zmokin

    Zmokin Agro

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    Blue Flame= you get flamed

    Its just running rich.... Not running NOS. Most cars when running NOS have a very real chance of running LEAN......
    Check ya facts... And you cant really compare supercharging to NOS. One is for short burst use and the other is always avaliable.2.5 cents this time and flame suit on
     
  8. 300luva

    300luva Barely Legal Performance

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    I have no problem saying I was wrong! :`( (n/m)

    N/M
     
  9. ZisLuv

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    NOS is completely safe if used correctly

    and with a bit of knowledge. There are a few good books out there on the subject and I encourage you to really do your homework before doing this.Again, like the supercharger issue, do a search on ttnet. In the states there are a lot more 300s hence a lot more combinations of people doing different things to them. I believe Greg Dupree from specialty Z is a big fan of NOS and has run it in his car for 5 years or something without an ounce of damage. Like boost, NOS has to be carefully balanced with fuel delivery and the pressure and temperature has to be well regulated.
     
  10. Psycho

    Psycho Insurance Underwriter

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    not jumping in blind....

    ive got 2 mechanics i trust on the subject who have installed custom applications for years, nearly more thn i care to remember, 1 is bob hawkins who owned chiptourqe performance here in townsville tht turboed and supercharged or added nos to performance cars and he is a stickler for changing everything and researching each application on its own, so to say id trust him is an understatement.
     
  11. Psycho

    Psycho Insurance Underwriter

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    more to the point.....

    if you can see the blue flame you were behind it werent you?, and yes nos does have a tendancy to run a car lean so if it did have a blue flame id stop watching 2fast 2furious as your deillusional(its amazing what effects an oiversized lpg burner can achieve heh) as per zmokin's post it is only good for about 15 seconds at a time then the system has to be purged again for re-use. it can not be legally run on the street and as per my post it is being considered for street meets.
     
  12. JETzx

    JETzx X-FACTOR

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    It is a good sign that your taking the dry

    nos route, 100 shot of dry nos with high octane race fuel should really pull decent numbers. Wolf is a good idea because you can switch between off street setup and normal road driving, think thye come with a spare memory slot also can use laptop to upload. Make sure your tuner knows how to work with wolf, other wise go with which ever ems they are confident with. I would go for a direct port seeing as your going the whole dry route, that way you have nos feeding evenly between all 6 intake runners. Consider other respectable n20 brands out there as well might save you a few $$$.
     
  13. LazyZed

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    Supercharger is not a good option :N(

    I was looking at all possible ways of doing it and the only *sane* way to pull it off is to remove the A/C compressor and put the charger there.
    There are about a half dozen guys around the world who have done it, generally running 3 psi and getting minimal gains for a LOT of dollars. :( NOS is a very realisitic option as you only want the power on the drag strip. Probably best to do a rebuild with forgies + new injectors + fuel pump to cope with the fuel/engine requirements of NOS :YD Personally, I am looking at breifly exiting the world of zed, then coming back to the world of TT }D Cheers
    Rob
     
  14. billboy

    billboy Guest

    hey

    The 200sx is a good car but it is only a 4 cylinder so if it didnt have nos then yeah you would beat it. You can get non turbo engined 200sx's so you cant be sure that it was turbo.
    anyway why come on this site and say bad things about the 300zx it pisses me off:`(
     
  15. JEDI-77

    JEDI-77 Jedi Master

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    be wary of 4 cylinder cars....

    For an NA owner, 4 cylinder turbo cars can run rings around the NA. The NA is fast, and give many stock 4 cylinder turbo cars a run for their money. But if the turbo car is heavily modded, then I'm afraid the NA will be introuble. You just have to look at some of the numbers that modded turboed silvia's, 180sx etc etc can pull. Of course, take away their turbo and its a whole different story..:)Cheers
     
  16. Psycho

    Psycho Insurance Underwriter

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    thanks rob were back on track

    thanks for the input, seems my post got sidetracked by 200sx talk which is about as apealing to me as a shaft scraper on my populating tool.<P>yes i was told flat out that today the supercharger is a remove the ac job no ifs ands or buts, so for the record if you want to supercharge one of these and keep the ac either send it through the bonnet or remove your ac for an underbonnet version.
     
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    Celica 3s-gte

    The GT4 engine can pull 650kw at the wheels of some Supras and Celica GT4's. (in Japan).Wonder if I can get one for my Stock Celica SXR?
     
  18. panda

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    street meet and not get dusted by boy racers

    Street racing is a no no. :N( Yes NOS would be the cheapest way to improve your horse power greatly. But to a Twin-Turbo guy like myself you have to change the bottle every time you want some power.I'm sticking with the Twins. :YD But the idea of NOS sounds like a lot of fun. }D
     
  19. ZisLuv

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    No need to take off the turbos...

    just take off a couple of spark plugs with just as good effect :)
     
  20. Psycho

    Psycho Insurance Underwriter

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    street meet = on the strip

    lol im almost 37 a little to old for street racing, street meets are for road registered cars on the drag strip were you can pick your oponent in a heads up match race.<P>also i dont know were the idea of changing the bottle for everytime you want power comes from as a 10lb bottle is good for quite a few runs.
     

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