A couple of suspension questions

Discussion in 'Non Technical' started by Joe, Jul 17, 2009.

  1. Joe

    Joe Capriciously Crude

    Hi guys,

    I'm planning on getting some suspension bits installed, with coilovers (and adj. upper arms) high on the list.

    I'm budgeting for a set of Bilstein PSS9s, but also have a few cost-effective fallbacks.

    With Tein, Superstreet appears to be the way to go. As part of my research, I'm after a few pics of them installed on the Z (preferably at it's lowest setting - calling all dumped riders) I don't want to attract unneeded attention, so I'll most likely run at legal limit, or very slightly under.

    For camber arms, forum statistics point to AMS, SPL or PZPs offerings. With PZPs, however, I can't seem to access Tom's info page on suspension products (broken link) Can any of you attest to the quality of all 3 side by side?

    Cheers
     
  2. directzx

    directzx New Member

    all i can say is look for jap stuff its usually better quality.

    email this guy - Jesse Streeter [dartsun75@gmail.com]
    tell him what you want and what he thinks would be the best brand part for your purpose and he'll find it for you and give you quotes for shipping to your door.


    have a look on nissansilvia.coma and search his name... one of the best parts importers around... highly recomended.
     
  3. mr zed x

    mr zed x chassis scrubbin..

    oh man dont go tein superstreets.

    they have minimal to no adjustment and on top of that they dont have a helper sping, the smaller on underneath the bigger one, to help the damper..
    so the lower you go, the worse the ride..

    i would recommend tein monoflex or similar.
    i currently run with tein HR. just the newer / track version of the HA's.

    picked them up second hand for under a grand. and could not recommend them high enough..

    as well as the camber arms, they re all basically the exact same, apart form the price tag.

    i currently run with the powertirix version. and again they do everything i want. and couldnt recommend highly enough.

    heres a pic of her, on lowest setting.

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    so low i knocked over a can LOL.

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    proof :p

    good luck mate.:zlove:

    kindest regards,
    rod.
     
  4. ZEDZY

    ZEDZY Active Member

    Superstreet's are not really designed to go low. And they are a bit soft on the dampening. There not bad, but they are far from being the best. Although the build quality is quite good.

    I would only run SS if you wanted a smooth ride on stock swaybars. And reasonable ride height. They also handle fairly well on bumpy roads.
     
  5. ZYTRAM

    ZYTRAM Formerly known as martini_Z

    Gonna have to disagree with you there rod, not all camber arms are the same! The weak point is the bolt where the adjustment is made, a few cases of them snapping quite easily.. Not something I'd want to be using on a hard mountain run! :eek:

    On eBay at the moment are actually what seem to be decent quality arms from an NZ company I believe, 190 to your door.
     
  6. mr zed x

    mr zed x chassis scrubbin..

    off the chrissy list martin.
    jokes brother haha.. yeah i guess your right.

    so when you up for a moutain run :p:p

    + the brands he mentioned are all pretty reputable and they dont very that much in design purposes!

    i would stay away from eGay. i heard that they crack around they joints and sometimes the bolt holes are incorrect.

    but eh.. what do you think of these? see any probs?

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  7. DrewZ

    DrewZ member

    Are those powertrix ?
    If so , top quality , should be no dramas there

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  8. ZYTRAM

    ZYTRAM Formerly known as martini_Z

    These are the ones Im referring to:
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    Browsing around I found they look basically the same as these from justjap:
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    Same manufacturer maybe? Still, about $100 difference in price :rolleyes:

    Hurry up and get your licence back Rod :p
     
  9. mr zed x

    mr zed x chassis scrubbin..

    nah these are, well shit i dont know..

    i picked them up pretty cheap and i wondered if they were any good. currently im running powertrix but i have these laying around.

    anyone know what they are?

    kindest regards.
    rod.
     
  10. ZYTRAM

    ZYTRAM Formerly known as martini_Z

    These are the ones Im referring to:
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    Browsing around I found they look basically the same as these from justjap:
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    Same manufacturer maybe? Still, about $100 difference in price :rolleyes:

    Hurry up and get your licence back Rod!
     
  11. mr zed x

    mr zed x chassis scrubbin..

    hey they actually look good !!

    got a link?

    i wonder how they are after some use? looks like the same bushes etc..

    and shut up lol.
    1 month and a half WOOOO !!! :thumbup::thumbup:

    wana come for a dandy run when i do ? :p
     
  12. ZEDZY

    ZEDZY Active Member

    I had a set of the gold ones. The ball joints failed more or less straight away.
     
  13. mr zed x

    mr zed x chassis scrubbin..

    the ones i have??

    the ball joints are the part i was worried about..
     
  14. Joe

    Joe Capriciously Crude

    Can anyone else confirm this? AUD to Yen is fairly weak atm, and I'm having trouble finding a competitively priced set. I don't want to splash out the FOREX-fluctuation for an inferior product.

    The monoflexs are being considered (settings still seem too harsh for Sydney roads, though :()

    I'll look into the HRs, too.

    I ended up getting a set of Tune Agent rear uppers. Still waiting for UAS to source a good set for the front.

    Did you import these?
     
  15. lidz

    lidz Well-Known Member

    Wow thats quite a jump from PSS9's to superstreets! If you can afford the bilsteins then get them. As others have said though superstreets are not the way to go when it comes to tein, really want monoflex.
    Plenty of other good brands around though.


    Rod helper springs dont help the dampening at all. When driving normally they're fully compressed & do nothing at all.
    The idea is when you go over bumps/potholls & the car bounces up, thus taking all the pressure off the spring, the helper spring can expand so theres still something locating the main spring. Basically its there to stop the main spring bouncing up & down (& making noise) when you drive over bumps.

    & as I said in the tein ra thread dude your hr's are below the ha's, were sold at same time but yours is the model without dampening adjustment. not sure where your getting your info:eek:

    & joe, pm sent.

    cheers, tim
     
  16. Chrispy

    Chrispy Pretentious Upstart

    How much do the PSS9's go for anyway?

    I've got the Tein SS's, not much point lowering the car that much anyway, plays around with the geometry a lot (look back through JP's old posts). I reckon they are fine, not as nice as the Mono's that's for sure, but for half the price, they aint bad at all...
     
  17. mr zed x

    mr zed x chassis scrubbin..

    then mine are f@@ked lol.

    when i get them serviced and tested, they were moving (both compressing and expanding)
    i was told the helper spring was to increase damper when the main spring was fully compressed.
    i dont get how it would be fully compressed while driving.. that would make an unstable ride?!

    i have been told by more than one member, this is not the case.
    so i honestly dont get where you are getting you info from?!
    i + them could be wrong..

    so the HA's are the model above mine tim?
    i dont get it..

    ahh well.
    anyways its beside the point. i love mine. and why would you bother with anything else for the streets..

    and no joe, i didnt import the rear upper arms.
    picked up a set off ebay a fair while ago, and the coilovers i grabbed recently but for the price being under a grand, how could you not..

    kindest regards,
    rod
     
  18. lidz

    lidz Well-Known Member

    sorry when i say fully compressed i mean the helper spring not the main spring. Helper spring has a much lower rate than main spring, when you wind the spring seat up to raise the height you'll notice that the helper spring compresses immediately & then the main spring will slowly start to compress.
    You've probably havent noticed because yours are set to dumped:D

    Now with your hr's they're just height adjustable correct, no dial to adjust dampening? Because the ha's have height & dampener adjustment, see here

    Not having a go dude, you just seemed to have your wires crossed. But as you said, you love them, they ride great & they're excellent value for the money. I looked into them myself a couple years back when I started seriously looking into getting coilovers & was quite impressed with the quality for the price.

    Joe with your front upper arms maybe talk to tom @ pzp. I got tune agent ones from amec & his look exactly like them (might even be them, i cant remember). At the end of the day they all come out of the same chinese factory but at least buying from an aussie vendor he's a lot closer should you have any issue (& about 1/2 the price vs US vendors)

    cheers, Tim.
     
  19. mr zed x

    mr zed x chassis scrubbin..

    yeah i know tim, dont stress bud :)

    yeah i did notice, when they were off the car i adjusted the helper spring and the main one did get shorter, but as you said, i dont notice it much anyways because the zed is so low, its at the upmost setting, the lowest haha..

    :eek: got me there.. mine dont have damper adjustable no, not that i know of or can see!
    so they H/A are the better version than mine.. haha funny.
    any difference with the springs etc?

    yeah but i guess they are all around the same price now ;)
    i love them, i guess it is what ever you want.. for me its the HR's.

    anyways all good mate,

    kindest regards,
    rod.
     

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