Hey guys, I got my zed only about a week ago, and have fixed a few things on it, but it shouldn't have been sold by a caryard, as it had a few defects on it like missing a headlight, windscreen washer doesn't work etc, and another one which i havn't been able to fix yet, is that when i turn my fog lights on, i get the two indicators on the bar next to the fog lights to come on, and when i indicate i get that side fog light come on, BUT only with the headlights on. i have pulled out the lights to see if they've just switched the bulbs over or something? - but all the wiring is silver as i assume the bars been resprayed, and the cords physically won't stretch to swap them? so i'm dumbfounded!? does anyone have any suggestions as to what may be going on? - oh and when the "foglights" (indicator) are on, they are solid and not blinking - so im not sure whats going on??
the indicators and fog lights in there look to be new (they are a very clear crystal white). i think someone's stuffed the wiring. obviously its a jspec z, so all the wiring aand relays for the fogs/indicators should be there. look in the tech section, you'll find links to the z32 service manual, which includes wiring diagrams. that should clear it up for ya... take it back to the car yard, they'll know they cant sell it like that!
1.Ok yours is a j-spec, when complianced OEM foggs were removed and replaced with indicator/parker combo. When you turn your foglight switch on nothing should come on as the fogs have been removed. 2.Your indicators should be the very outter pair, they are your j-specs. The ones you have next to your number plate are the Aus-spec indicater/parker combo. 3.Reason they only come on when your headlights are on is because the fog switch in the RH pod on gets power when the headlights are on. I think when yours was complianced it was done wrong. swap the plugs around on each side and see if this helps
Yeah, I was going to take it back, and be a pain, but they would just take the car off me for a week or two while they try to fix it, and probably do a heap of shortcut methods and make a mess of it, and i've already fixed most of the little things, it would be more of an inconvenience to take it back than to do it myself... I'll have a look in the tech section for anything thanks =D
I can't tell from you sig pic, what type of Fog/Parker/Indicator light is fitted to the inner light area(there are Jspec Fog/Parker units, but there are also Aust. Parker/Indicator units)and either could be on your car. I think your best option is a quick trip to an Auto-electrician, as they will be able to quickly track your wiring, and end your problem.:zlove:
He's deffinatly got the aus-spec combo i can see a bit of orange in there. Jus disconnect the two square parker/indicator lights (closest to number plate) then disconnect the outter lights and plug them into the first pair you diconnected (closest to number plate). Hopefully the centre ones will be working properly as they should. Don't worry about playing around with the fog light switch as you done have any fog lights.
The centre ones (near number plate) are working correctly already - the indicators work as they should, and there is a little section that comes on as the parker lights... - I am pretty sure I do have fog lights, as when i indicate at night, the entire side of the road i am turning down lights up, just as if i had fog lights... Is there any way that the wires could have been switched? I thought just about the bulbs being switched, and apart from the fact they couldn't reach to get in the other hole, that wouldn't explain why the orange ones don't blink...
Ok well if the centres work as they should then the outter ones have been incorrectly connected to the original fog light wiring instead of being connected to the indicator/parkers. I am pretty sure you do not have fog lights ahve a look at Chilli's sig pic were he posted up, his centres are fog lights/parkers and his outer are the indicators. I use to have the same as yours as mine is an aus-spec it had indicator/parker combo near the number plate. I ditched them for a set of fog lights and wired up my outter lights as indicators
check that you dont have a signal wire coming from your guard orange indicator/flasher. on our old red zed that got complianced in QLD they were sneaky and ran a wire from the signal side of the guard indicator/flasher, to the front inner indicator. the outers were painted black yet still were wired up correctly. signal came from the guard, to the centre indicator, then double adapted to the outer. very confusing i know, but just get your smarts on, and grab a mate to flick the switches while your on the volt meter. at least you'll know what wire does what. also hit the tech wiring section. compliance places always balls up these things. best of luck
Hi, Ok now i'm not sure if I have any fog lights at all? I have looked closely and played around with all the combinations and my side lights that come on with the indicators and lights on are extremely bright, and appear to be fog lights, but only shine out the side, and then have an indicator next to them. Then on the inside lights i have parkers - which work, and then my "fog" lights which are indicators - and only put out the amount of light an indicator would? can anyone explain what is going on? because i have completely confused myself now =S lol
So by the looks on picture your indicators also have a clear section ?. Is this a clever idea to shine light around the corner you are turning ?.Do your centre bar lights have a orange blinker section also?. my j-spec has all clear fog lights in this position.Any thing can be rewired to work the way you want it to quite easally.Just need a cheap multi meter.And a basic understandind of d.c electrics.
i thought that for turning around the corner, which is ok, but the centre pieces are in two sections, with the parker lights - the small section and then the larger portion is my indicators on the front. then on the corner pieces which is the indicators on most, has that clear portion which comes on with the headlights on and indicator for that side on, and then the other bit is amber which comes on with the fog lights...
The two inner lights are from an Aus spec Zed and are where your foglights should be. Which means when you press the foglight button or whatever then your aus spec lights which are a combination of indicators and parkers are lighting up, so no you dont have any foglights they've been replaced with parkers and indicators.
Your best bet is to take a photo of the fog/whatever lights and post it. That way we can see whats what.
ok, just took some pictures, - they aren't the greatest quality, but do portray what i'm failing to explain lol on this last one, the BRIGHT side light doesn't come on with the fog lights! - i was thinking different to what i was typing
thats a pretty neat trick with the outer white light to come on when indicating. good for night driving....does it constantly stay on, or flash with the indicator lamp? however, having the outer amber light come on as a "fog" light, may be confusing to other drivers, they may think your indicating when really your not. i personally would leave everything as it is, but rewire the outer amber "fog" lamp with the true indicator. (the centre amber light closest to your number plate) this way when you indicate, both amber lights switch on. - on a side not, i think its the outer amber "fog" light that has the amber cover lense thats the actual amber coloured part within the housing, you could break it up, and remove it from the housing, and use it as a fog lamp, at least then it'll be white and not amber.
yeah, it is handy, especially as the tint isn't legal, and is very hard to see out of at night. Yeah, the side lights stay on constantly with the indicators. I am intrigued as to how everyone else's is set up now... does anyone have any pictures of theirs that is stock? - both auspec and j-spec? - just so i have an idea... - i may look at investing in some oem fog lights if i can find someone who hasn't smashed them in a front end prang lol If their front lights are their fog lights, what does that make their parkers?
nice, being that they stay on constantly, thats a great idea. still would opt for removing the amber cover and making it a white light fog lamp though, or optimally making it an indicator. on the jspec fogs, they look like a single beam unit, however there is a small wedge type globe built into the side wall that is used as the parker. then there is a H1 (i think form memory) bulb that is used as the true fog lamp. then the other amber "fog" lamp your using on yours, is the actual indicator on the jspec...then afaik the outer most white light (your so called footpath light) isnt used. well at least it isnt on mine and amandas
question? does you rear side red bumper reflectors light up when your headlights are on? on my jspec they do not, but on amandas jspec they do...looks good of a night. oh then also on my old red zed, that was a jspec but complianced in aus, the front lights looked like yours, didnt operate like yours though, but also the rear reflectors didnt light up. lots of little different touches to all these cars.
yeah i do like the idea of the 'footpath' lights, but are they illegal? - i know there are some pretty strict guidelines about exterior lights in nsw... i think i definately will be trying to put it back to having the indicator next to this though. my inside unit is also only the wedge type bulb for the parkers - but just has the indicator next to it... which is just a normal bulb - im not 100% sure what the H1 looks like, but mine just has an ordinary automotive incandescent bulb... from memory my rear back markers don't light up =[ - i havn't seen that in action, but i think it would look rather good - just like the rear illumination panel - i would love that aswell... mine was complianced in 2002 in sydney, so im not sure whether they have done things then, or whether its been pranged b4hand and has been done then, or whether its been in the time since, and has had the front inside lights replaced with the auspec - just cause they were cheaper at nissan? - the whole bar has been resprayed as all the wiring is silver inside, so im not sure as to whats gone on with it though...
