1st to 2nd Auto gear change

Discussion in 'Technical' started by fontii, Dec 7, 2007.

  1. fontii

    fontii New Member

    Hi guys,

    my Zed has always had a bit of a jolt when changing up from 1st. It's just a bit annoying really but i'm trying to get the car running as well as I can.
    The only time it doesn't happen is if I floor it, but that aint so practical around the city!

    Anyone have an idea what might be causing it and a solution?

    Cheers,

    Andy
     
  2. pexzed

    pexzed Forum Administrator

    Get your TPS voltage checked for a start, and make sure you are not in Power mode via the switch next to the gear selector.
    You are in QLD, so if you can make it to the AZA grand opening (check "coming events section"), I can check it for you there.
     
  3. Dominik

    Dominik New Member

    Would love to know the answer to this too. Checked my TPS (quite thoroughly actually :eek: ), and also did a complete fluid flush, but same problem... Actually, its precisely the same symptoms as fontii has...

    I have a feeling the box is on its way out, but i am hoping for a miracle :)
     
  4. EvZ

    EvZ 1BAD300

  5. fontii

    fontii New Member

    Cheers mate, i've got it booked in for a mini service at amec tomorrow so will ask them to take a look. i'm in brissy, so it aint too far.
     
  6. fontii

    fontii New Member

    The TPS reading was going all over the show. The contacts on the TPS were notg clean though, so i'm gonna have a go at cleaning them up and then re-test it.
     
  7. fontii

    fontii New Member

    UPDATE

    Solved the problem of dodgy gear change by running the car with various TPS positions. Some were quite obviously crap- idling at 2k, changing up from first at 6k, etc, but now i've got one i'm happy with where the change is very smooth.
     
  8. Fleet

    Fleet Speed Racer

    glad to hear you got that sorted out cheaply Andrew :)
     
  9. Dominik

    Dominik New Member

    OMG! I LOVE THIS FORUM!

    Funny thing is, the old TPS didnt look bad. Voltage sweep seemed fine in ECUTalk, and sat consistently on 0.46 at idle... But after changing the TPS to the new one i got from Ebay, the gearchange became much smoother, and its at 3000 rpm every time. Still slightly noticeable, but it is night and day compared to before. I am soooo happy!

    I have put up with dodgy gearchanges ever since i bought this car, thinking that the only fix was to rebuild the gearbox. I just used to back off the accelerator at around 3000RPM and let it change gears while it was coasting... Now I have to train myself to accelerate smoothly again, because i cant seem to stop backing off before the change!


    One thing i did notice is that starting the car takes a tiny bit longer than before? 3 seconds instead of an almost instant start... Could it be related?
     
  10. FuriousDonut

    FuriousDonut Member

    I have this same problem. I had my TPS replaced last year. Possibly its faulty again?!
     
  11. Caz1

    Caz1 New Member

    Check your top Diff bushes, my zed had a terrible 'kick' from 1st to 2nd after changing the diff, turned out the top diff bushes hadnt been put in. Put them in and she is as sweet as.
     
  12. FuriousDonut

    FuriousDonut Member

    How much to replace those bushes peter?
     
  13. Neddey

    Neddey Member

    What TPS voltage

    did you finish running with - I have had the same problem for 4 years???
     
  14. Dominik

    Dominik New Member

    From what i understand, it isnt so much what your idle voltage is (mine was a rock-solid 0.46v), rather it is the voltage that it gives when you are accelerating in the mid-range.

    The TPS should read between 0.46, smoothly up to 5.5v or something
    But if the TPS is bad, it might read smooth from 0.46 to 2v, then all over the place after that.

    In that case, adjusting the TPS one way or the other would mean that the TPS gives a correct voltage at half throttle (but might still be bad at 3/4 throttle)

    Or you could change to a new TPS for correct readings all through the accelerator range...
     
  15. fontii

    fontii New Member

    Ok, now the TPS has been set at the correct voltage and I still have the same problem with the auto change-

    car absolutely slams from 1st to 2nd

    'clunk' can sometimes be heard, usually when the gear changes at the same time as the accelerator is eased off.

    Any advice appreciated. Car is with the mechanic this week, so would be good if I could get things sorted.


    Cheers
     
  16. K-zed

    K-zed Secret Squirrel

    See an Auto Tranny specialist

    Regular mechanic is unlikely to diagnose (beyond TPS setting) .
     
  17. fontii

    fontii New Member

    cheers, thought I might have to do that, but wanna get an idea of what it could be before I go. Someone mentioned it could be related to the top diff bushes?
     
  18. Cam

    Cam ****

    Mine jolts to every since I got it rebuilt and modified at a place Pexy reffered me too and figured it was because of the modifications carried out. I like it in fact, makes it feel more for drag and sometimes I can get it to chirp the tyres.

    The one thing that pisses me off is the auto power on which comes on just buy pushing the accelerator too quick when I'm driving normally. Thats when it holds gear longer and I'm waiting for the damn thing to shift. Sometimes I just switch to hold or power then back to normal to switch it off. No worries when gunning it but is there away to disable it?

    I don't understand why they needed to put that in as well as a switch. if I want it to hold gear for longer I'll flick the switch thank you very much :bash:
     
  19. MixalZ

    MixalZ New Member

    hmmmm

    ....i may have to look into mine now. Ever since i had my car the gear changes have been rough and I have to ease off the accelerator alot to allow a change. Good info ppl :)
     
  20. Caz1

    Caz1 New Member

    Diff bushes, Check bushes 13,14,15 in the pic below.

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    I found 13 + 14 were destroyed in my Zed and were causing a very uncomfortable jolt when changing gear. I originally thought it was the transmission but after having a look the problem was quickly fixed by fitting new bushes. $120 for all 6 genuine Nissan parts (3 for each side-13/14+15) which was a huge relief when I was thinking it was the transmission.
     

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