Firstly, I'm not arguing with anyone, least of all you. I am answering a request from another member for information (an answer you apparently don't like). If you're so frequently confronted by an obvious lack of performance on the part of the Police in your State, then why aren't you reporting them to the appropriate authorities, instead of asking me "why is this happening"?:wacko: You have such a love of documented evidence for every conceivable issue raised on here, how is it that you haven't availed yourself of similar documentation (from the sources I provided) before making another attempt at starting a flame war? You are not the definitive expert on everything, neither am I, but that doesn't mean that we bother know nothing.
Hey Lloyd .... Pretty much this same thing happened to me when I was doing my licence test about 1000 years ago. I was 1/2 way through a RH turn when a car on my right came over a crest and lad to emergency brake. He would have been doing 100k or rhereabouts (in a 60k zone) before braking. I was sure I would fail my test, but after gathering his composure, the tester assured me he hadn't seen the car either until it was too late, and the incident would not affect the result. The combination of the crest and his speed was critical. I passed my licence, and the tester said something about being unlucky to score an idiot dickhead during the process. The law can be black and white, but there can always be circumstantial interpretation.
You were lucky enough to have an independant witness on the spot. In most cases the Police don't witness the event first-hand, and so are prohibited from making those judgement calls. It is continually re-inforced during Police Training, that officers are not to be "Judge, Jury or Executioner", all of those positions are already catered for elsewhere in the judicial system. I could cite many instances of NSW Police being reported to their superiors, by people they had decided to go easy on. The usual complaint is "he didn't book me, so I mustn't have done anthing wrong, so why did he stop me in the first place?". Perhaps that might be worth considering when someone doesn't get "the benefit of the doubt", next time a cop pulls them over.
Hopefully??!!? :sick::wacko::sick: Mate if a motorcycle hit you at 100 clicks it would be pretty bloody obvious, pardon the pun... but is that really something to hope for? At the end of the day, all court decisions aside you still have to live with the fact that someone died (as he most certainly would have)...and no court decision is going to help you get over that. Lets just be thankful that tragedy was avoided in your case.
true I would have to live with the fact that he killed HIMSELF on my car. I wouldnt feel half as bad as his family and friends though.
there was an accident here in Perth not long ago where an old guy pulled out of a known danger spot (blind corner or hill?), he was hit and killed by a car that was racing.. There was never any mention of it being even partly his fault and had he survivied I really doubt he'd have received any kind of fine, I'm sure there'd be a big stink and much debate if it were to ever happen.
My friends brother killed someone in a similar situation.... Do you know Canberra at all? Antill St? Runs from Dickson college down to Dickson shops, a long stretch of road with no traffic lights. 60kph speed limit. 2 lanes each way, he was racing a mate in the other lane, they were way over 100 kph (can't remember the exact speed), a car pulled out turning right. He hit it and the guy he hit died on the scene. His friend he was racing was lucky, he just missed getting hit... anyway, point of the story, my mates brother was hit with numerous charges, including neg driving... plus getting a mention on the local news. What I always remembered about it was his description of what happened in court, "Driving normally down to McDonalds." This was when I was in first year uni, about 10-11 years ago now. Each situation is different, if no one died then they may have placed blame on the guy pulling out, who knows.
Should you really be saying something like that so carelessly on a public Forum? Don't forget anyone could be reading this! Including the poor guys kids! Furthermore your also saying you know he lied in a court of law... I wouldn't be saying that here. Just an opinion but anyway
New car, I test drove a '93 BMW318i yesterday and I think this is what I'm gonna go with. It has no power so it will be considerably harder to do this sort of damage. Plus it looks ok, which is really all I care about :lol:. As soon as I've learned how to drive I'll be back in the FOR SALE forum looking for a new Z :thumbsup:
that's sad news, prophet .. but probably a wise move ... have you considered investing a few "bob" in a quality, defensive driving course ..??????:unsure::unsure::unsure:
Re: New car, hmmm.. given that this is your second incident in as many months.. i wont dissagree with you secondly, the law is not as clearcut as that.. the problem is, if the car had t-boned you, then youd probably be dead given that it was heading right at your door and you beleive that he was speeding. maybe you just werent paying attention (my brother pulled infront of a cara few weeks ago that he just didnt see. but i did, it was a close call, lighting/shadows etc, plain old getting too confident and not paying enough attention) my mum was involved in a car accident about 18months ago.. sitting in an intersection waiting to turn right. the lights went red and she went(already in the intersection), at that point in time someone ran the red light coming the other direction and ran into her, noone was hurt, both cars completely totalled. in Chili's mind, mum was at fault because she failed to give way to oncoming traffic, in my mind it was the other persons fault because they ran the red.. the case can go either way and its down to the police to lay charges and insurance company to work out who pays the actual $$$ who do people think is at fault, and who do they think the cops put at fault
Hey Minivan, I can speak for myself, and I don't recall doing so. There is enough bullshit on here about "who said what?", "who's up who?", and "who isn't paying the rent?". Kindly don't attribute something to me, when I have never commented on anything to do with the incident you describe. If you want me to comment, I will give you my opinion (it is only an opinion). A: If the guy who collided with your mum, claims successfully that "the light was green when he entered the intersection", then they would probably book your mum. B:If your mum successfully proves that the light was red BEFORE she commenced to turn, then they should book the other driver. C: If it all appears too hard to determine fault, they will probably drop any ideas about booking anyone, and simply take the escape route by saying that they have "conflicting reports" so NO ACTION TAKEN.
