Best source for parts is K-Zed, all brand NEW OEM except for one idler pulley. No rebuilt bits, everything in it's little Nissan boxes. Really John, demanding that the customer only uses parts supplied by you is a bit rich, warranty will be provided from the part manufacturer not the installer. As long as it's installed correctly
MRC Yes Mark from MRC worked for us for a few years and is very good, we still do a lot together and no I was not alking about him or anyone in particular just generally. We have also had the opposite, and can happen. I don't know who you are or what car and rare but possible the mech at the time did not fix the prob with your car. We are currently fitting some dump pipes to a Skyline supplied by the customer and often do but enge parts we do nto do. It is an efficiency deal as well as economic. Try calling a plumber or other tradesman to fit parts etc when you supply them, it is not done. Also we have had numerous problems with customers supplying their own parts. My mech's are cheaky and often tell customers to put their mouse down as it is cheaper usually. Not always.
Couldn't agree more I can't believe how many people there are on this forum that are NOT trade qualified, insured mechanics, who are actually charging members to work on their cars...
That is a load of crap John. I've had electricians install the light fittings I purchased, and plumbers install the bathroom fittings I also purchased. It is common to have a plumber or gasfitter install kitchen appliances after the customer has purchased them from a third party.
Last I heard that certain mechanic no longer works for you so thats a good thing. Anyway back to topic.
Agree, with qualification... if parts supplied are new and from reputable OEM manufacturers, there is NO reason why any trades person or workshop shouldn't install @ labour only. It's not only common but within Trades Practices guidelines. Reputable workshops may refuse to fit second hand or inferior non-OEM vehicle parts which is fair enough; to refuse fitting of quality owner-supplied parts is usually profit-motivated. Not saying that's bad... just mean
I think that's a load rob... That's stereotyping to the max and shouldn't be tolerated on this forum. I've completed many 100,000km services after 'qualified mechanics' have worked on them and you wouldn't believe the amount of shit they just forgot to do or install incorrectly... Gee, we didn't notice that we did not put clamps on the bypass hoses. New engine rebuild with an old rusted tensioner (at full extension), timing belt that looks older than the car and leaking cam seals. Crank sprocket plates swapped around, front on back and back on front. WTF!!!! Nice looking belt that one! Oh and did I mention I had one without sprocket plates on at all?? Upper Plenum gasket just laid over an old one they couldn't be assed getting off. The list goes on... Think before you open your mouth next time mate.
wow there is some real heat going around the boards between the various sellers & service providers that frequent here, guys, it does none of you any favours! Perhaps we should split any discussions of product quality or otherwise and service providers out into another area?
Flame action...... I second this, but appreciate people protecting reps/defending opinions or claims etc, We should invent a Z gene for our mechanics. Knock them the F*** out, then stab them with a syringe.........PRESTO a Z mechanic??????? This thread was about what????
I totally agree with you NightFallTech however this has been going on for at least the past couple of months and there is only so much you can take before you can't help but retaliate. I don't have a lip to bite anymore! Thanks mate! :zlove:
Well well The motor industry certainly seems to be more mongrelised more than other trades as far s fitting Ebay or other sourced items. Sometimes they work and get a good buy but can be trouble and no warranty or advice or worse wrong advice. There is more to buying parts than price. We have had a run lately of people buying Bock Choy items form internet based businesses and Ebay that are rubbish like BOV copies to Turbo Smart that jam, to radiators that don't fit, to Z32 AFM's that don't work. Or as mentioned even if you get the right part might not get the service as in someone to talk to or fitting advice which for some items can be very important. Very frustrating when a customer calls or emails wanting advice on a product they bought from an internet business that they cannot reach on the phone, or they don't know the answer. Yes there are dodgy or hopeless mechanics and there are backyarders who can do better work. There are plenty of people flying the mouse find out how to fix their car and stuff it actually.Some as mentioned including Rob260 who had someone on this forum work on their engine fitting a simple part and killed his motor, no warranty sorry. Chrispy I am sorry you see it this way. I guess you did not think I have expenses I have to meet and kids to feed and expensive mechanics to pay etc. I don't demand anything and how can you? We have the options if we work on cars or willing to take on work and lately I am knocking back a lot, even zed customers for various reasons and we have a few rare ones that we will not work on their cars again for good reasons. We do try and help people but as in any business some ruin it for others. We are also fortunately or unfortunately booked out all the time. I might add my brother in law is a builder and he does same as does any good business, to some extent pick and chose what jobs they do. Some just quote silly high prices so they don't get the job. I could do this but can you imagine. Hey I just spoke to UAS and they tried to charge me......... I had a guy this week call me up with troubles with his zed after came back from smash shop. He actually wanted and expected me to diagnose and fix his car over the phone. It sounded like a potentially complex and involved issue, and he kept asking how much is it to fix mate. How mcuh for that mate etc and I said, I explained quite a few times it can be involved and impossible to know how long other than I quoted him an hourly rate and assured him we know zeds very well and often diagnose problems relatively quickly, like in an hour or so but not always. He kept pushing for price and I finally said, " I am sorry I don't think we can help you and hung up. " Magic wand, crystal ball, perfect world, bucket full of hindsight, trying to change the past etc all on back order.
and well said too, tom ... it is always the same ... ... the master leads with the glass jaw, logical, lucid corrections are posted and wham o, .. in roll the groupies ... derisable ..... lol..!!! the mere existence of this forum is, in itself, testament to the amazing level of knowledge, experience and know-how available to us all ... australia wide, and provided in the main by "unqualified" zed lovers ... just look at the number of rebuilds and major projects in train, on the forum, at the moment and undertaken by forum members .. the proposition that all this should only be carried out by "so-called qualified" workshops is simply a heap of ridiculous nonsense .. go PZP .. your post was a breath of needed fresh air ...
Sorry, sounded that way... I understand that it will always be more finacially viable for a workshop to supply it's own parts, but sometimes the customer likes to know exactly what will be used on their car. The previous owner of my Z who I new very well had several workshops service the car (no proper performance workshop might I add) and they regularily screwed it up, inferior oils and fluids, incorrect parts botched up made to work (they even tried to put in a TT diff ), cheap drive belts that split radialy, you can see why I'm a real piccy prick, that's why do all my work myself. Sure it takes me two or three times longer than a 'proper' mechanic, but I know it's done right and exactly what's going into my pride and joy.
Sipro or autotech quoted me, $500 to install an Apexi SAFC + dyno tune. Mark from MRC done it for half that - and now pulling 262rwkw at around 15psi. He rules MRC: 44 Carrington rd, Castle Hill Phone: 02 9634 5399 Tell him you want the same service as Ali. I got the kit from K-Zed thanks mate and Mark installed it all without any dramas.
Wow i didnt expect this to become such a flame war, everytime mechanics and workshops are involved people have very different ideeas. (Received lots of PM's). Thanks to everyone that voiced their oppinion of this and that workshop in a PM rather than on the thread.
Its been a worthwhile thread Adrian, I have learnt things and its interesting to hear how Zed owners feel about who works on their Zed and the conditions surrounding that work. I'd like to know who ends up doing your 100k service and how it goes Caz..
mechanics im with Zrated on this one ive been his right hand man on a few of the 100k services and boy there are some buckets of shite running around that have had "services done" by qualified mechanica .. yeh sure both tom and myself are not qualified mechanics, but we both know zeds very well, has there been one report about the work Zrated has done that has been less than excpetional... as for 'Qualified mechanics" yeh some are GR8... like the guys at Xspeed that ripped claras engine out 2 replace a det sensor and then billed her for 2, and billed her for 30 injector connectors.. YEH THAT GREAT GUYS.. or maybe the guys at precise moters .. chris "sabrewolf" paid for a 1pce driveshaft when they were doing the work 2 his zed for compliance... and 5 months later we find out its still the stocker... Kirst payed 1700 for a plenum pull at a local Qualified mechanic and all he did was replace the injector connectors and a few underplenum water hoses... YES THERE ARE DODGY MECHANICS ..... THEY MAY EVEN BE QUALIFIED AND WORKING AT A REPUTABLE SHOP... at the end of the day do the work yourself or pay some1 you know 2 do the work that is even more pedantic about your car than you are.... 130 bucks a hour... i thought the local boys here were expensive at cypher at 80 jeeze
Given the choice I would rather have a knowledgable Zed enthusiest work on my car than any mechanic/'official' workshop. A self employed mecahnic would be my next choice, where the person that does the work owns the business. The success of his business is dependent on the quality of the job he does, so attention to detail is important. Like Stuart at Bezerkly and Mark at MRC
spot on chrispy .. years of uni .. years of on the job training, heaps of legal responsibility and accountability, a requirement to obtain and retain professional registration .. and you are charged out at $90.00 ..!!! a bloody laugh when you see the unceasing attempts to justify a charge out rate for a mechanic at $130.00 ... absolutely f56789g obscene ...!!!!
