So I'm design this Z...

Discussion in 'Non Technical' started by Arashi, Dec 9, 2009.

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  1. Stef

    Stef Active Member

    I think it is one thing to customize a car by enhancing what is already there.

    I can't see the point of hiding the original car and make look completely different though.
    Just buy a Toyota instead.
     
  2. immortal300zx

    immortal300zx The Most Senior Member

    hahahahahahahh i mass lol'd, yeah im not real keen mate but a good idea i guess...i can see many people buying it if it hasnt been tested to make sure everything is going to work ok.... personally i wouldnt put it on my nan's vespa but yeah....
     
  3. airstyle

    airstyle Z Anarchist

    Man the only thing you're going to get with photoshopped airbrushings of what your car might look like are exactly what the last 10 replies have been :bash:

    Post some pics of the build process or where you're at without any potatoe shopping and you might get some different(and more constructive) responses !:cool:

    IMHO from the photoshop I'd probably have to agree with the above though :p
     
  4. blackheartedprofit

    blackheartedprofit New Member

    mate, if you're designing and constructing these to sell, you're going to go broke, word, sorry but someone needs to tell you.
     
  5. WA300Z

    WA300Z ZD32WA

    Hate it. Also, why is the engine exposed? I'm pretty sure that's illegal

    You're taking a great design and making it worse, it doesn't make sense. The only thing that can be improved on the Z is the rear imo. That doesn't mean ferrari lights either.
     
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  6. WhiteNight

    WhiteNight Littering and...

    There a lot of nay sayers here. Ofcourse we think the stock look is nice, it still manages to get in the top 20 best looking cars of all time. So dont take the negative feedback too bad, it was bound to happen.

    I think a top notch final product would attract some more positive attention prehaps. A few messy photos dont really give your idea justice. Plus you gotta ditch the bonnet engine hole, unless its strictly for a show car.

    I say well done for trying something new. Anything new in our old cars is a good thing.
     
  7. michandy

    michandy Active Member

    Agreed

    Something new never hurts otherwise we would all be driving around in model T fords and such :D
     
  8. Arashi

    Arashi Member

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    The cars shorter rather then extended.
    Have a link to these lights?


    Just to visualize those cars... I like my look better :)
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    crazy camero pic I found http://www.cynergycomposites.net/70.5 Camaro 100.jpg

    I would rather have my car over a supra thanks, unless its the L-FA of course.

    A vespa? my car will be a chick magnet! ;)


    I just uploaded a signature picture and have a thumbnail picture of the side dimensions in the early stages design.

    I dont expect most Z owners to want to change there beloved Z and buy my kit but more that these kits can be slapped on cars really easy and can sell to the average citizen, as a whole, for lots of profit!

    Imagine the TT version with the z1 ($5000) add on to gain a total of 700hp. That would be one impressive car.

    If no one buys them, I wont make them, its not a risky investment as you think.

    A clear plastic cover will be engineered to overlap the engine.
    It shouldnt be illegal.
    I will definitely be making a disclaimer for it though, that its illegalities for any governing body will be purchased at the owners own risk. So the first Australian buyer, if there will be any, will be taking the first risk but Im sure other people in different countries would buy it.

    If the kit catches on there, any buyer can make a duplicate of the mold and send me $200 royalty fees for ever copy.


    Thanks, well Ive been thinking only if I can make the side out of aluminum some how, by some fabricating metal artist, it would be great!
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    In order to create a 300zx from scratch.... You must first create the universe.
    great quote.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSgiXGELjbc
     
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  9. BADZX

    BADZX Grumpy old fart

    glad you asked for opinions..... ;)

    Not going to hang shit on it but constructive critisim you'll get !
    :cool:




    Yep its differant allright :eek:

    for a ZX..... but its a very common looking front design as seen on most family cars today. Its the current style/trend in design with just about all the major manafacturers right now !!!!
    All I can see is just "another car" that I see everyday .... its not a standout design that catches ones eye..... in my opinion :cool:


    3~4 grand for a front bumper and a bonnet ( hood)..... ya dreaming :rofl:

    Why ?????
    A fibreglass Bomex, AB Flug, Veilside etc front clip can be had delivered to your door for under 3~4 HUNDRED !!!
    so is a fibreglass bonnet (hood) worth the extra couple of grand ????

    didnt think so !;)



    Me thinks there will be huge issues with that bonnet design apart from the headlight issue you've allready mentioned.....
    The major one being the opening setup, it will be a major interferance when it comes to actually doing any work on the engine or within the enginebay itself.... looks like a hellish job just to top up the radiators coolant let alone pull the radiator out
    :mad:
    Massive amounts of "extra care" would be needed to do even the simplest job in the enginebay with a 3 piece bonnet setup...... mechanics are going to want your head on a spike !

    The other thing is why fit this "bling bonnet" ? I can only think that it would be for car shows, inwhich case the engine itself would be largely hidden from clear view by show patrons, they'd only get glimpses of the heart of a 300ZX.


    My thoughts:

    1/ Change the bonnet opening design
    This will decrease the massive price tag by eliminating the extra bonnet hinges/ catches/ etc which would have to be made and supplied with the "kit" ( I'm asuming that they would come with the kit at this stage)

    There is no reason why the bonnet couldnt be made in one piece and yet maintain the std bonnet opening design ..... put simply .... the 'eyebrows & front headlight panel' being moulded to the bonnet and sold as a complete single unit thats a simple unbolt the std unit and replace with the Arashi bonnet..... perhaps then with a price decrease and a simplistic change over you may get some sales.

    By doing this the bonnet would allow owners to fit other front spoilers to your bonnet and as we all know "making their car" differant from every other ZX on the road.



    2/ pricing madness V's style
    No-one in their right mind is going to hand over 3~4 grand for a kit that makes their ZX look like every other car on the road today, even if it were carbon fibre, 3~4 grand is just not acceptable..... let alone affordable
    :eek:
    Personaly I can see your design working on a 2tone paint design, but on a ZX thats a single solid color it's NOT a standout design at all, people will look at it and think bland front spoiler with a bonnet that has eyerows..... You paid HOW MUCH for it
    :eek:


    Tip / suggestion:
    Re-photoshop your design so the car is one color and blend the lines on the bonnet so it appears to be a single piece bonnet, then see what people think.

    Try the 3 basic colors of ZX's... red, black, white with the new photoshop and the old one and do a comparision..... I think once you've done this you'll see a huge reason why your receiving largely negative responces.
    I coppied your pic and had a play in both photo editor and paint , changed the color to Phantom Purple ( color of one of my ZX's ), all I could see was "just another boring family sedan"....

    you wont be getting my 3~4 grand at this stage

    Kingy
     
  10. 300ZXMick

    300ZXMick New Member

    imo i think you really need to show more construction pics and the pic you show looks like it took you 5 mins to knock up. photoshop will never look right or end up looking exactly like the end product. its not a totally bad design or look but i think its a bit much, also i think its too wide to much at the front. norrow it down and give it a lil defintion and shape. i dont know anyone that wants a near round fronted z

    i notice plenty of people asking where is the bonnet latch? or that make it hard to open your bonnet. dont you think that may have been taken into consideration if he has gone to the effort of designing and making the kit. even i have redisigned my bonnet latch so i have 2 levers in the car. the right lever pops the bonnet, the left lever makes both levers go to fully pop bonnet.

    as for the hole in the bonnet, i would say that would be optional and if you had a reverse flowing scoop then it would be quite a desent setup as long as your getting optimal airflow. it would also open a good oportunity for a single intake plenum if it was for race or do a good job and maybe for show.

    well thats my 2 bob
     
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  11. 300ZXC

    300ZXC #TEAMROB

    Just wondering if anyone else read the thread title in the same voice as:
    "So I'm havin' this dream.."
     
  12. Kieren

    Kieren Active Member

    You would have to design a new manufacturer logo then, since your current one is the Infiniti badge...
     
  13. psycodelik

    psycodelik psyco led's

    i was informed that this was even more offensive than your bodykit design,

    Panthers Out
     
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  14. Chrispy

    Chrispy Pretentious Upstart

    Haha, I thought I'd seen it somewhere.

    I've got one of them on my engine :p
     
  15. MagicMike

    MagicMike Moderator Staff Member

    If I hear correctly, we are yet to actually SEE any of these kits delivered - if they are even made as yet??? :rofl:[TIS]
     
  16. ed300zx

    ed300zx Active Member

    lol find me a brand new abflug bar for less than 400 delivered
     
  17. mr zed x

    mr zed x chassis scrubbin..

    LOL @ this thread. started off nice then went so bad.

    so now i shall add my input.
    it honestly looks like shit. you wrecked every single sexy line on the 300zx. and WTF is with the bonnet being 3 metres long and the engine so far mounted back, what the hell is at the front ? a storage compartment with beds?

    i think you need to learn HOW to photoshop. because crayola for kids and ms paint aint doing it for me. and 3-4k for that.. rofl.

    your kidding? wheres the sides ? the rear ? hows it open and close? is it one piece?
    will this be ADR approved?

    ohhh man. thanks for the laughs but. and i wish you all the best with your camarozedgatti.
     
  18. mafi-zed

    mafi-zed the resident hoon

    yes your right you havent put any photoshop outlay, just MS PAINT.

    how are you even going to get the glass/plastic to go over the lights in the shape you have drawn up?
    Your bonnet design is so stupid, and will frustrate the shit out of anyone who needs to work on the vg30 which, and as an owner you should know that will be more often than not.

    do us a favour and go take a new picture, prefrably 3x the size of your current one.
     
  19. Gonzo

    Gonzo STROSEKED

    If the distance from the windscreen to the front of the headlights are the same as stock then the car looks heaps longer from the headlights to the front of the bar.
    If the car is shorter where did you cut the sub frame,and how did you move the motor back.

    You need to show some pics.
    who cars how you make it we are not going to copy your secret way of body shaping.

    Its easy to do you just take a stock item.
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    Do some of this.
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    Add some of this.
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    Do a bit of this.
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    And there you have it another bad design.lol
    Thats been sitting in the shed for awhile now.:D

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    You wonted a link to my insert.
    http://www.aus300zx.com/forum/showthread.php?t=295651

    Show some real pics of the car it might look different than your make up pics.
    My car is the chick magnet sorry.
     
  20. Arashi

    Arashi Member

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