Brakes squealing, can't find why.

Discussion in 'Technical' started by My_Fairlady, Dec 4, 2008.

  1. My_Fairlady

    My_Fairlady New Member

    My breaks are squealing when i come to a stop at lights or whatever, when i apply the breaks it only happens when I'm almost at a complete stop.

    I've pulled each one apart and checked for rocks, dust, obstructions on the pads, calipers and disks, all the pads are almost new so i don't know what the problem is.

    I'm unsure how cheap the pads are because they where on the car when i bought it. But the amount that the breaks sequel so loud i doubt it would be as simple as low quality breaks.


    What are some other reasons they would squeal like they do, its really embarrassing in rush hour lol
     
  2. scooba84

    scooba84 Brassier Inspector

    Some brake pads can squeal if they are not at the correct operating temp. My old bendix used to do that sometimes too.
     
  3. michandy

    michandy Active Member

    Could be

    The shims missing from the back of the pads. I think they have something to do with stopping the harmonics from the brakes.
    Could be wrong. Hope this helps.
    Andy
     
  4. Cam

    Cam ****

    How old are they? If not bedded properly then they'll squeal like a shot pig for a long time then eventually stop. Mine did. Also check for shims.
     
  5. pexzed

    pexzed Forum Administrator

    You may also need a small amount of grease behind the shims
     
  6. My_Fairlady

    My_Fairlady New Member

    everythings there.
     
  7. ZEDZY

    ZEDZY Active Member

    Could be your pistons. Rebuild em. get the parts from caz. It also makes the brakes work better. You can tell if its the pistons because it makes the noise when u are stopped.
     
  8. 300zxt

    300zxt Well-Known Member

    Could be dirty, try some hard/heavy braking at speed. They could just be really shitty pads though.
     
  9. SIM300

    SIM300 FAKE MODERAT0R

    Are you sure it is squealing, and not creaking?

    If it is creaking, check your castor rod bushes. It these are worn, or broken... they will make noise when you come to a stop.

    Worth a look.
     
  10. mafi-zed

    mafi-zed the resident hoon

    mine sequeel slightly when applying the brake really lightly, but when i apply moderatly it oes away..
    done that ever since i changed to bendix ultimates, i have my shims and i used the proper shim grease.
    also beded them in as per instructions
     
  11. BADZX

    BADZX Grumpy old fart

    Sounds to me like the previous owner has slapped on a set of new pads onto some shitty old discs for a RWC !!!

    Machine discs & fit new pads

    I doubt you'll get away with just a machining and then refitting the current pads.....


    Kingy

    p/s
    Cars have "brakes, brake calipers, & brake pads"
    Humans have coffee breaks, lunch breaks, and dems da breaks
    ;)
    give us a break with the brakes or the web might break then it will be broken from over braking
    :D

    did I get that right or did I bruck it
    :p
     
  12. BlaZeit

    BlaZeit New Member

    I agree just went through a similar thing, new pads put on the car without having the rotors machined, once machine the squeeling pig was gone.

    I would machine the discs first with current pads and see if it improves, then maybe change the pads if they are pretty new you should not need to change them.
     
  13. gslrallysport

    gslrallysport New Member

    That's like when a customer for some unknown godly reason can't give me a delivery address for QFM other than a post office box, which means I can't send it by courier, so have to do an arvo run to the post office... As I'm handling over the 3kg satchel, the ladies always ask "is there anything that can break in there?"

    Thinking to myself "shit i hope so!"

    ...but they wouldn't get it anyway! :p
     
  14. gslrallysport

    gslrallysport New Member

    Oh, as for squeal, it's generally (like 99.9%) of the time harmonics between th backing plate and caliper itself. Try some loctite 3 (permatex) onthe backing plates, and give the pad surface a rub on some concrete to get the pad to sit slightly different in the caliper. Nothing to do with pad material on rotors unless it's a VERY low speed grinding noise as you pull up...
     
  15. My_Fairlady

    My_Fairlady New Member

    The rotors are below size, un-road worthy. I had the tires changed and they told me. I had it RWC beforehand, surely they should have picked that up.
     
  16. Lovic

    Lovic Non-member

    i have a similar problem, but the brakes only squeal when it is getting hot.
    when it is cold, no squealing noise.
    brake pads still have 1cm thickness.
    but front shims are missing, so is this the reason?
    (used grease already, no luck)
     
  17. mantastic001

    mantastic001 New Member

    Join the club mate :mad:
     
  18. Jeff TT

    Jeff TT Member

    Do you not have the anti squeal shims fitted? if not apply some copper slip or similar to the rear of the pads.

    Jeff TT
     
  19. Red-Z

    Red-Z Red-Z

    Good one, made me laugh! (was going to say "made me break into laughter" but didn't have the courage)
     
  20. Planet Z

    Planet Z Member

    In order to stop brake squeal at low speeds

    You need to have the brake shims fitted and use a brake grease between the shims and the back of the pads. The shims are designed to do 2 things
    1) help dissipate heat for the brake pads
    2) reduce the harmonics that lead to brake squeal when the pads vibrate

    The brake grease helps reduce the squeal by absorbing the vibration.

    Hope this helps.
    Cheers Tim
     

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