No Engine Oil Circulation , What the Hell !!!

Discussion in 'Technical' started by Sweetchuck, Apr 18, 2007.

  1. Sweetchuck

    Sweetchuck New Member

    This is shitting me big time , pretty much have new engine and everything else , just did oil/filter change to 10 / 40 mineral to see if helps lifters and general noisy engine .Also have very low oil Pressure.

    Got under the running Z and found that the oil cooler was dead cold and a very warm filter and sump , pulled the oil feeds to the cooler (you would expect oil everywhere but it was dead dry ) you can feel when it runs there is no oil flowing . The A/T cooler flows so hard the pipe vibrates .
    All the oil pipes are new , new oil pump , no blockages to be found . Where in the service manual is the oil circuit diagram ???

    If I find these arsehole engineers have screwed me again and blocked an oil gallery or something I will go POSTAL !!!!
    I've had a gutfull , and want to go to Zed fest ,anyone have any clues ??
    :( :( :( :( :(
     
  2. AndyMac

    AndyMac Better than you

    Oil cooler only flows when the oil reaches a certain pressure. Make sure the oil cooler is attached up right, maybe?

     
  3. bubuche

    bubuche New Member

    Is the oil cooler only one way to flow or can we connect just on any side?
     
  4. ltd

    ltd Linux Ninja

    That's right... 4 bar is meant to be when it kicks in....

     
  5. Sweetchuck

    Sweetchuck New Member


    4 bar ?? my guage flatout reaches 2
     
  6. 90TTZ

    90TTZ Back From The Dead

    Not uncommon for OEM OPS to be blocked up from years of old accumulating deposits. If it was reading higher than 2 before the rebuild then it may indicacte a problem with the oil system, otherwise change the sensor.
     
  7. Tektrader

    Tektrader Z32 Hoe, service me baby

    The valve is in the oil filter leg. So if its blocked up its not the end of the world.
     
  8. Sweetchuck

    Sweetchuck New Member

    A prick to get out though , but what isn't :rolleyes:
     
  9. 260DET

    260DET Active Member

    When the motor was done up, were all the oil galleries cleaned out properly? There is really only one way to do this, remove the gallery blank off plugs, clean the galleries with a brush etc, fit screw in plugs. Do the same with the heads.
     
  10. Sweetchuck

    Sweetchuck New Member


    I think all of the welsh plugs were removed and it was acid bathed . I'll find the reciept to find out exactly.


    Ok Here is what they did to the block

    Crack test Crank
    Crank Straitness
    Polish Crank journals
    Bore cylinders
    Balance Crank
    Clean block and parts
    assemble and align pistons and conrods
    check oil pump
    replace welsh plug
    etc etc

    Heads
    Bead blast heads
    surface grind
    Reface valves
    reface valve seats
    Vavuum test valves
    assemble
    set valve height

    Blah Blah
     
    Last edited: Apr 19, 2007
  11. 260DET

    260DET Active Member

    Welsh plugs are for the coolant so thats not it.

    Might be worthwhile asking them if they did clean out all the oil galleries and if so how. Just flushing or blowing compressed air through them is not good enough.
     
  12. ltd

    ltd Linux Ninja

    Change your OPS or add an aftermarket gauge in case you have a real problem. When cruising on the highway you should be ~ 4 bar. When accelerating at high RPM you should see somewhere near 6 bar.

     
  13. Sweetchuck

    Sweetchuck New Member

    The plot thickens :mad: With a lot of swearing and tantrums that would put a 2 yo to shame I managed to get the oil filter bracket off.

    I found the oil pressure relief valve missing

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    also the O ring on the tap is rock hard and falling apart , Is this suppose to be a rubber o ring ???

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    It makes me wonder what else the Engineers have pressed out in order to flush the oil gallies .
    I also drilled out the OPS , seemed to be a bit gunky but dont believe it's faulty .

    With all of this in mind , with the oil pressure relief valve missing it has to be a problem ehh .
    Also explains why the bypass to the oil cooler never opens , it opens under pressure not temperature by the look of it .
     
  14. MikeH

    MikeH smeg

  15. Sweetchuck

    Sweetchuck New Member

  16. MikeH

    MikeH smeg

    nah, I just happened to notice that section of the manual while putting everything back together.

    My oil pressure sender was stuffed and I couldn't wait so chose to risk it.. I'm currently driving around in blissful ignorance of my oil pressure. I do have a digital temp gauge though so would notice any issues pretty early on.
     
  17. Sweetchuck

    Sweetchuck New Member

    Maybe the sump is dented , but looks ok to me a few scars on it and small dints no where near the pick up .

    has anyone ever pulled out the sump as per the service manual ??

    Looks really scary :eek:
     
  18. MikeH

    MikeH smeg

    I wouldn't do anything before trying an aftermarket oil pressure gauge, I'm sure I've seen em for like $30.. you could get a new stock or VDO sender but then it could still be your gauge.
     

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