dead engine mysterious resurrection

Discussion in 'Technical' started by fergie_z, Jul 29, 2005.

  1. fergie_z

    fergie_z New Member

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    Previously, as a result of driving without enough engine-coolant (the temp gauged showed normal temp!) my engine was steaming when I came off the highway. After it cooled down and on re-starting, it was missing, i.e. seemed to be running on 5 cylinders, water leaking from the head gasket and a worrying rattling noise from the bottom end. So the mechanic pronounced it `dead' and in need of a replacement engine. Hence my previous posts on searching for a new engine. However, today we fired up the engine and after a while the engine missing and rattling noise disappeared. Drove it around for a while and it seemed smooth as silk. We're really really mystified as to the sudden full recovery !??? The oil smelled pretty cooked. He noticed that there was a water leak from a tube and the bottom part, and someone had bypassed the heater system and plugged those tubes up (don't know why). The mechanic will run a tube across to let the engine coolant circulate, and it may need just the heads to be skimmed flat, new head-gaskets and a new radiator. I'm keeping my fingers crossed and hopefully my quest for that elusive donor engine in China has ended ! BTW, the coolant temp sensor apparently does not register temperature changes if there is no coolant touching it and may read normal so beware if you're low on coolant ! A very bad design indeed. Anybody no a good fix for this to prevent future re-occurrence? Is there an after market sensor that works of the engine body or perhaps a coolant level gauge?

    Fergie
     
  2. black baz

    black baz black 'n blue Bazemy

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    yep .... contact k-zed on this forum .... he has designed ........

    a chip-based TEMPERATURE WARNING DEVICE which has saved at least 2 zed engines on the gold coast in the last 6 months ... sells for around $50 plus postage, a very cheap insurance policy ...

    there are plenty of threads on the oem temp guage ( nortoriously unreliable) and k-zed's TWD ... also check HEATER CORE FAILURE, which is probably why the mod was done to the vehicle in the first place ...

    and whack "china" in your profile so that respondents who did not see your earlier post will know where you hide out...
     
  3. r33k

    r33k 'I reek of Englishness'

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    :LOL: :LOL: baz posts at 5:05 AM! does this guy ever sleep? :LOL: :LOL:

    :wacko:
     
  4. black baz

    black baz black 'n blue Bazemy

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    reek ... oh purple people eater ... !! check out my thread on non-zed

    related " ok .. now for something different " and you will understand .. f@#***g possums .. in the pantry or where ever ..!!! and i have golf later today ...!!!!

    and what the hell are you doing ..posting at this time anyway >>>??? go to bed, cos i am right now .. the dawn is coming and the f'ing possums will go to sleep with me ..!!!!!
     
  5. chewy

    chewy Active Member

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    does the TWD warn you when no coolant is in the system?
     
  6. pexzed

    pexzed Forum Administrator

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    Re: does the TWD warn you when no coolant is in the system?

    No, it detects the voltage output at the CTS.

    but I can assure people that it is an excellent device.

    I had a faulty radiator neck and it wasn't sealing at the cap properly, so I lost enough coolant on a trip to cause an overheat. The TWD came on in plenty of time to save my engine.

    I then replaced my radiator, and the increase in cap pressure blew apart my bottom hose on a cruiZe, and I lost "all" my coolant in a matter of seconds. The TWD came on again and told me straight away.

    It saved me twice, and both times through a lack of coolant, so I just say get one for ur Zed.
     
  7. Fleet

    Fleet Speed Racer

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    chewy I believe at one time you had designed a water level warning

    device - or was that someone else?
     
  8. steveh300zx

    steveh300zx New Member

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    A beeper sound (high pitched and loud) rigged to the TWD would be

    a good enhancement. I installed a simple small beeping device on my motorcycle's indicators to remind me to turn the damn thing off. I purchased it from Radio Shack when I was living in Canada; very cheap. But the best device I reckon is one that works off the water level, cause the TWD may not work if the coolant suddenly and QUICKLY bursts out.....it'll still record a normal temp reading as the sensor needs to be in contact with the coolant. Perhaps rigging a "fuel-like" sender unit in the plastic coolant reservoir that beeps when it drops to a certain level might do the trick? Anyone who makes one let me know; I'll certainly buy one.
     
  9. K-zed

    K-zed Secret Squirrel

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    TWD does it all now actually

    The new circuit (pcb) is 3-in-one & can have a relay installed for activating audio alarm or thermo-fan.

    Frankly, an audible alarm is NOT really necessary (unless seriously vision-impaired :cool: ) as the flashing red LED is immediately noticable... ask Baz. :D

    The TWD pcb may also be configured as a low water alarm although I'm not building it in this configuration due to sensor/probe installation difficulties. The one off-the-shelf probe I found to screw into an OEM radiator has nearly trebled in price & DIY adaptors may cause more harm than good.

    As experiend by Pex & Baz, the TWD has provided warning of coolant loss in both instances.
     
  10. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

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    Rob where can I find details

    On installing the TWD to function with the auxilliary fan?
     
  11. K-zed

    K-zed Secret Squirrel

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    The standard TWD function incorporates LED as warning only >>>

    Secondary function, i.e. activating thermo-fan, requires addition of relay & diode... really only required for ppl doing circuit work, or adding a/m thermo-fan.

    [Your TWD is without relay.]
     
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    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

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    Thanks K-Zed

    Thanks for clearing that up!
     
  13. black baz

    black baz black 'n blue Bazemy

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    yep .. i can confirm all dat ...! you simply cannot miss the led light ...

    it flashes rapidly with a highly intense red light .. i reckon that it would even alert a blind man ..!! just good stuff ....certainly saved me ...
    :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::D:D
     
  14. fergie_z

    fergie_z New Member

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    found one !

    check out this site i just found. The first water temp sensors fits right into the upper hose and should be able to be rigged to a bright led/buzzer instead of a fan.

    https://secure.visav.co.uk/avshop/products.asp?getcats=true&cat=39&scat=95
     
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    Caz1 New Member

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    Unique Autosports has a 'low coolant level' alert/alarm

    Unique Autosports number is 96348000.
     
  16. fergie_z

    fergie_z New Member

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    do you have a website or email for Unique Autosports, or pics of this ?

    fergie
     
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    scottZ Manwhore

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    fergie_z New Member

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    cheers mate

    fergie
     
  19. steveh300zx

    steveh300zx New Member

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    low water level warning kit

    I enquired but the kit is only for "shop fit" and they don't have instructions for DIY. Anybody know of another source for this kit ?
     
  20. zed4life (zedcare.com)

    zed4life (zedcare.com) Ω vicarious zedder Ω

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    Contact member 'Chewy' - he has instructions on how to do

    PM is prob the best way...
     

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