Key Security

Discussion in 'Technical' started by Zedophile, Nov 17, 2004.

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  1. Zedophile

    Zedophile Member

    This has probably been discussed before but recent buyers of Z32's (like me) might not be aware of it. Anyway I was reading my owners book the other night and it said that if you lose your key and you know its code then you can get a lot of locksmiths to cut one up for you from his Nissan codes. This is excellent because you are not copying another key which is probably quite worn but getting a new exact replica of the key of the car when it was new. But then it went on to say that you will find the code stamped on the side of an original key. Alarm Bells!!!!!!!!! I looked at my key and sure enough there was a code on it. This means that you could be at a pub etc. put down your keys and someone picks them up and memorises the code number then gets one cut for himself for your car. So I bought a blank from my local Nissan dealer and then took it to a car locksmith gave him the code and he happily cut me a key for my car for $12. I asked him about security and he said that he had no legal obligation to check ownership. Wow!! So if you are using an original owners key maybe you ought to have another made up (preferably by someone who has the Nissan codes) and leave the other one at home in a safe place. Just a thought anyway or maybe I'm just a little bit paranoid?
     
  2. OZED

    OZED New Member

    Key codes

    Good point. I never thought of it that way. Got one cut last month after I bought a key blank from TTZ. I suppose I don't think like a crim... They did ask me if I wanted the code stamped on the key and I said no as the code was written down at home and I only use that key now. The spare is in the safe at home..
     
  3. Zedophile

    Zedophile Member

    Hey!!

    Hey!! Are you calling me a crim!! But maybe I missed my "calling"? :- ) (how the hell do you move those smilies onto your message and also put pictures in your posts? Is there a help function to this forum program? But it's set up So Well - I love it. Thanks to the originators and to the people who now maintain it.)
     
  4. Blipman

    Blipman Beer hooves totally work

    Getting key codes without the key

    I learned from bitter experience with a Silvia where the key was lost (and then later found sitting under a UPS box! :angry: ) that if you take out the driver's door key barrel and take it to a lock smith, they can get the codes from that and cut up a new key.

    Ben
     
  5. OZED

    OZED New Member

    Signatures

    You set them up in your control panel, being either a signature or a Avatar:eek:..To get a smiley face, just click on one in the panel on the left:thumbsup:
     
  6. YeaPal

    YeaPal New Member

    I'm not sure if anyone else has this but......

    All I can use my keys for is starting the car. I can't unlock the doors with them, all the locks have been disabled and only keyless entry is available...

    I guess that takes away the worry of people getting into your car with another key.:D Though if my batteries run out I'm stranded.:(
     
  7. zed4life (zedcare.com)

    zed4life (zedcare.com) Ω vicarious zedder Ω

    key locks V remote

    I like that idea for added security against a 'slim jim' but if someone wants really in, they just break a window/targa etc.

    I wouldn't worry too much, remote central locking units are pretty reliable these days. I haven't used my key to unlock a door since I bought the car. Just diarise to change your remote batteries every six months if you're really worried.

    Having just pulled out most of the drivers side under- dash and the key unit, reinforces to me just how insecure a key ignition unit is.

    Come to think of it the way the alarm people wired my immobiliser, I was able to bypass it in 10 minutes when I had a really closer look.

    Not now though, I have done some very creative wiring !;)
     
  8. WYKKED

    WYKKED <b><font color=red>2 Much Trouble</font></b>

    Next time you have a door trim off.......>>

    Have a look at how the locking mechanism, and connecting rods are routed. It would be next to impossible to open the zed with a slim jim or coat hanger. The two rods that run from the door latch to the handle on the armrest actually run on the inside of the door, between the trim and the door, and can't be reached from outside.
     
  9. OZED

    OZED New Member

    remote locking

    What sort of remote locking can you get for a Zed??? NOt that I ever need to lock the Zed out here in the scrub, but will need to lock up next time I'm in the big smoke again
     
  10. Red TT

    Red TT New Member

    Is there any way of getting the code without the original key?

    I bought a key blank from TTZ but unfortunately couldn't get a perfect cut from my non original key and it wont fit.
     
  11. ENuffZ

    ENuffZ Diesel Driver

    A good locksmith should be able to read the code..>>

    just by looking at the key even if it is worn.

    Andrew
     
  12. Dangerous

    Dangerous Member

    Good point. Re getting keys cut from codes,

    any decent locksmith will be able to determine the key code from any working key, whether it's an original one or not, or worn or not (within reasonable limits). From there, it's just a simple matter of cutting a blank to the code, not copying an existing key. It costs a bit more, but you end up with a 'new' key, not a copy of a worn one.
     
  13. DUB

    DUB BRAMIS Photography

    Man, you really need to look at the ignition barrel 1st

    All you have to do is unplug the wiring plug off the back of the ignition barrel and click that bad boy over and away you go. Absolutely NO NEED for a key at all, only a screwdriver.
     
  14. Mitch

    Mitch Has one gear: GO

    Re: Man, you really need to look at the ignition barrel 1st

    thats hecktic...
    I need a security system. :thumbsdown:
    My shitty old VN commodore could be broken into and started with nothing more than a screwdriver and about 20 seconds... car security is all about keeping the honest people honest. If someone wants your car, it will be gone, no doubt about it.
     
  15. henpecked

    henpecked very small member

    moving on to a new thread !:thumbsup:

    this topic/thread continues in a newer thread , click below to read more comments and post your observations/comments on this - cheers;):thumbsup:


    "Newer thread - post there please - click me !:thumbsup::LOL:

    as you can see above , theres a little time gap between Nov 2004 and april 2006.:sick::wacko::LOL::LOL:


    all my fault for giving a clicky reference back to this post in the newer one - whats the saying - the road to hell is paved with good intentions ?????

    :LOL::LOL:
     
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