White Smoke.

Discussion in 'Technical' started by SpanIchabod, May 12, 2015.

  1. SpanIchabod

    SpanIchabod New Member

    So I went to do a video to post up on YouTube, and when I shifted it into drive, it liquid came out of the exhausts. I'm 90% sure it's fuel. I'm going to call my mechanic tomorrow and organise for it to be dropped off this weekend to him, best let the professionals handle it this time, I don't want to do any more damage.
     
  2. East Coast Z

    East Coast Z Well-Known Member

    If the engine's running you can bet your balls fuel isn't going to be running out of the tailpipes.
    The problem seems to be you don't know the difference between smoke & steam.
    You may be surprised to hear, water (H2O) is a product formed as a result of the combustion process & it is common to see running out of vehicle tailpipes.
    Once the vehicle has been running for a while the exhaust system is hot & the water will not condense into a liquid.
     
  3. clivi2

    clivi2 Clivi2

    White Smoke??

    If its steam it will dissipate in the atmosphere pretty much as soon as it leaves the exhaust.

    If its coolant it will travel a fair distance in the air before it dissipates.

    Fuel, if it is burnt is generally black. If your letting your car warm up and letting the whole exhaust get to temp then fuel won't leave as vapour and will be black.

    the best thing to do is take off your radiator cap and let it warm up. a sniffer test would be ideal and most mobile mechanics will do it for under 100 bucks if not just watch for large bubbles and wait until the car is at temp for a while to check the " whit smoke" to determine fuel,steam or coolant.

    if you have bubbles and the white smoke isn't dissipating after running at temp for a good 5 mins my guess is a head gasket or crack in the block somewhere.

    happy hunting mate and all the best with it.
     
  4. waynoz

    waynoz New Member

    yup, I think what your seeing is quite normal.
    its not uncommon... give the liquid a smell and I bet it doesnt have one. meaning its probably just water.

    try not to panic.

    if you do take it to a mechanic and they spend their time chasing fuel smells in the engine and end up taking off the plenum you will be up for some serious $$s, so just relax, and assess the situation.

    everything coming out the exhaust sounds within reason to be low danger

    fuel smell in the engine bay is a high priority, but can only really be caused by a few things which you can probably troubleshoot yourself.

    I personally would go back a few steps, and redo the plenum pull with a new gasket. I can post you new egr gaskets and possibly even injector to plenum gaskets if you want to replace them just to be safe.

    make sure everything on the plenum goes back together properly and check all fuel lines 100%, especially the FPR to Fuel Rail and Fuel Damper to Fuel Rail lines. make sure to check fuel lines around the filter as well.

    as for the rough running.
    do a balance check
    do an injector click test if you think one cylinder isn't working
    and check continuity and signal on all injector connectors which can commonly play up.

    You can do it..
     
  5. AndyMac

    AndyMac Better than you

    I don't want your balls so I won't bet, but you're wrong. I've had fuel dripping out of the exhaust also with a fine white vapour which disappeared after about a foot.

    I had a blown injector driver which had the injector stuck open, it was misfiring, but pumping so much fuel into the exhaust it was dripping out the end.
     
  6. AndyMac

    AndyMac Better than you

    And this is how I bent a rod and subsequently punched it out the block.

    Do not advertise this, there is a method to it, which is easily f**ked up.
     
  7. waynoz

    waynoz New Member

    could you tell me how quickly you put the water through the vac line?
    and what rpm

    i was 500ml over the space of about a minute at 2200rpm

    I went really slow, almost to the point that i didnt think it was doing anything at all. I did think that it was a pointless exercise but it did run better afterwards so it must have done something.

    nothing say's at what rate the water should be put into the intake.
    some videos just use a spray bottle and run a mist through, another video i saw the guy used a garden hose (NOT RECOMMENDED)

    as you say, I would be very reluctant or careful if anyone does do it, but the reason I mentioned it is because it literally blew no smoke at all when i did it. so it would be interesting to know how much water has to be getting into the system for it to cause an effect.
     
  8. stumagoo

    stumagoo Active Member

    I did the windscreen washer blunder and got water vapour out the exhaust. it was only vacuum fed from the washer bottle so cant be any faster rate than your's Waynoz but maybe more over all volume
     
  9. waynoz

    waynoz New Member

    interesting

    that probably would have sucked through about the same amount though (500ml) but, I didnt have the vac line sitting 100% in the water though, it was more of a 'dab it in', let it suck a little water then either cap it with my finger or let it suck some air.

    a little off topic, but perhaps there is enough air getting into the plenum that for the 'seafoam' clean (with water) to work you have to sit the vac line in the water.

    I wasn't keen to do that.

    did you have any additives (bug remover) in the water?
    might have made a difference?
     
  10. AndyMac

    AndyMac Better than you

    Washer bottle was plugged into the plenum by accident at idle, wasn't much in there was a clunk and it stalled the motor. She started up straight away again no problem but with a barely noticable miss on idle.

    A month later I was pulling out of a servo normally, nothing excitable, and the conrod snapped. Motor destroyed.

    The thing with seafoam and other products is that it's heavily aerated and it's designed to coat surfaces, so the chance of getting so much into the combustion chamber that it cannot be compressed is nil.

    Also as far as smoke on combustion, water in the combustion chamber won't cause noticeable vapour out the exhaust. Coolant will, oil will, condensation in the exhaust system will.

     

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