Another wheel Bearing Question

Discussion in 'Technical' started by munted, Feb 27, 2015.

  1. munted

    munted New Member

    Lads.
    Don't flame me i know its been done to death

    i am getting conflicting part No's for wheel bearings can someone confirm for a 1990 tt what the part no's will be for front and rear.
    i.e i have so far
    Front
    NIS-40210-33P07
    NIS-40232-33P00
    40210-33P07

    Rear Left
    43281-AA000
    43281-AA300
    Rear Right
    43280-AA000
    43280-AA300

    coming from various sources (FSM, CZP, Kudosmotorsport)
    I know there is a difference between some years and NA vs TT so i am hoping someone can clear this up for me.

    And apologies if i am crossing the line but a sticky with CORRECT part No's would be a fantastic addition to the forum.
     
  2. munted

    munted New Member

    Surely someone knows the correct part number.
    I've currently got two cars out've action, the zed is now the daily. I've got a bad vibration and noise, I need the part to fit the first time.
    I honestly can't afford the down time to wait for new bearings to be re- ordered if they're wrong. And I near guarantee I won't be able to re- fit the old ones. They'll most likely fall apart.
     
  3. TWIN TERROR

    TWIN TERROR Well-Known Member

    I think the main problem you are having getting any info is that so many people have bought what they have been told is the correct part only to find that they don't fit. The rear TT ones are the ones that people have more trouble sourcing the correct part. I did post a little while ago a link to a bearing supply catalogue that listed TT ones but I feel by the posts that responded it was incorrect.
    Here is the thread

    http://www.aus300zx.com/forum/showthread.php?t=329203

    Good Luck
    Dave
     
  4. munted

    munted New Member

    Thanks Dave,
    Honestly I've found it confusing with so many varying numbers I've dug up, and I spec and design bearing parts all the time!
    I did actually do a search and read nearly all of the relevant threads that came up. A decent two hours I will never get back. Plus a scour of the Internet and two different manuals.
    The only helpful thing that I did find was a lad by forum name CnsZ who used to stock and sell the bearings, not sure if he is still around on here but he could be handy for some info.

    If I can get Monday afternoon off I think I will go harass my local nissan parts supplier and see how many different parts he wants to sell me, I might just have to buy them all and return the wrong ones :p
     
  5. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    I can sell you genuine wheel bearings to suit your TT. Rears are $300/side
     
  6. black baz

    black baz black 'n blue Bazemy

    CnsZ is long gone ... and yep, he used to be the bearing man.
     
  7. munted

    munted New Member

    After fronts at this particular time rob, but I will most likely do the rears at some stage. Don't go anywhere :D
     
  8. East Coast Z

    East Coast Z Well-Known Member

    What's the VIN?
     
  9. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    Oh Ok I have a price on them too but will have to post tonight
     
  10. munted

    munted New Member

    CZ32-502866

    The lads @ DJ Nissan parts were kind enough to put up with me asking 20 questions yesterday.

    The front bearings for my year / month are
    Nissan part No : 40210-33P07
    The actual bearing is manufactured by NTN Japan, it is part of there generation 1 hub bearings. A double angle roller bearing.
    NTN part No : TU0808-1


    Nissan also confirmed for my year / month I need a
    Nissan part No : 43281-AA300 (rear left)
    43280-AA300 (rear right)

    I would expect these will be NTN hub bearing gen 2 from looking at their catalogue. And I will pull the numbers off the bearings and confirm when I get hold of some rears (prob 2 months away)

    Now for the interesting stuff.

    I believe (as in Nissan hinted at it but didn't confirm it in complete words) that the front wheel bearings for na tt and all years are the same.

    The rears however change a bit.
    Na and tt were na bearings up until 90/02 and then tt split to the weird tab style which I think has a larger bore diameter. The 40381-AA300 number comes directly from Nissan and that is a nissan part number.
    The FSM just shows a number 40210 which is the same for the front but I guess Nissan fast or whatever they use breaks that down further than the manual.

    It's fkn confusing as hell, there are a myriad of sites out there with conflicting part numbers, I hope this info helps someone in the future.

    Fingers crossed they actually fit, I've already spent 6 hours in a dark corner in the fetal position over this, don't particularly wish to go back for another stint :p

    Cheers

    Rob
     
  11. The Deacon

    The Deacon The Deacon

    Any room in that "dark corner in the fetal position" for another previously confused Zedder?

    Good stuff, any idea of a link on the how to replace rear wheel bearings?

    Have you been able to find any generic rear bearings with the pins?
     
  12. East Coast Z

    East Coast Z Well-Known Member

    Re: Wheel Bearings

    CZ32-502866 - Built 02/1990

    The lads @ DJ Nissan parts were kind enough to put up with me asking 20 questions yesterday.

    The front bearings for my year / month are
    Nissan part No : 40210-33P07
    The actual bearing is manufactured by NTN Japan, it is part of there generation 1 hub bearings. A double angle roller bearing.
    NTN part No : TU0808-1

    FAST indicates there are two part numbers for the front wheel bearings, suitable for both NA's & TT's built from 07/1989 up to 08/92.

    40210-33P02 - NSK Bearing

    40210-33P07 - NTN Bearing



    Nissan also confirmed for my year / month I need a
    Nissan part No : 43281-AA300 (rear left)
    43280-AA300 (rear right)

    I would expect these will be NTN hub bearing gen 2 from looking at their catalogue. And I will pull the numbers off the bearings and confirm when I get hold of some rears (prob 2 months away)

    The rear bearings are listed as suitable for the TT only, built from 07/1989 up to 01/1997.

    43280-40P05 - Alternative part number 43280-AA300

    43281-40P05 - Alternative part number 43281-AA300

    The illustration in FAST indicates the bearing is contained in a housing, hence the differences in part numbers between right & left sides.


    Now for the interesting stuff.

    I believe (as in Nissan hinted at it but didn't confirm it in complete words) that the front wheel bearings for na tt and all years are the same.

    The rears however change a bit.
    Na and tt were na bearings up until 90/02 and then tt split to the weird tab style which I think has a larger bore diameter. The 40381-AA300 number comes directly from Nissan and that is a nissan part number.
    The FSM just shows a number 40210 which is the same for the front but I guess Nissan fast or whatever they use breaks that down further than the manual.

    It's fkn confusing as hell, there are a myriad of sites out there with conflicting part numbers, I hope this info helps someone in the future.

    Fingers crossed they actually fit, I've already spent 6 hours in a dark corner in the fetal position over this, don't particularly wish to go back for another stint :p

    Cheers

    Rob[/QUOTE]
     
  13. East Coast Z

    East Coast Z Well-Known Member

    Front wheel bearing part number 40210-33P07 is the replacement bearing for ALL Z32's built from 07/1989 up to 10/1999.

    Rear wheel bearing part number 43280-AA300 (RH) appeared in 02/1999 & continued to 10/1999 & is applicable to the TT only.
    43281-AA300 (LH) same details as above.
    The above replacement part numbers are applicable to ALL Z32 TT's.
     
  14. East Coast Z

    East Coast Z Well-Known Member

    Part Numbers:

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  15. munted

    munted New Member

    Yeah mate, plenty of room.

    It's dark and quiet and warm, maybe I could be the little spoon

    I will be using a drift as shown in the manual, getting the drifts fab'd too size at the local shop. I plan on using the vice. If that doesn't work I'll go borrow a clients press, I've already been given the all clear to do so.

    As for generic bearings I don't think you will find much, I deal with bearings all the time and these are pretty much specialised for automotive applications. They are rather impressive when you look at the details of them.

    East Coast Z
    Thanks for the input, Now im not sure how I got confused.
    You make it look too easy
     
  16. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    And genuine front TT wheel bearings for $70/side
     
  17. munted

    munted New Member

    Last one I promise

    Alright then.

    Wheel bearing successfully swapped, i photographed the whole procedure with the intent of writing something of a tech article for the forum for future reference. but honestly without a neighbour who is a mechanic and another who has some heavy duty tools there is no way a backyarder such as myself could have pulled this off.

    The FSM makes the job look relatively easy, and if you have a copy you can clearly see they intend on knocking out the hub from the bearing with a suitable tool..... In this case a vice a drift and a hammer.

    what they neglect to mention is the fact they pressed the old bearings in with a 20 million gija gillion tonne press and it is going to take the biggest 3 blokes you know to knock that fkr out with a sledge hammer (possibly bending your steering knuckle)

    there is no way to press the hub out without some serious tool making to try and hold the thing level and really the tiny knobs they provide to press the bearings in are not even useable without shims....

    overall not impressed with the experience, and my recommendation for anyone thinking of attempting this is DON'T, pay the pro's a few hundred and get it done properly.

    all in all it was a success however, i had to redrill and tap a few holes (they copped a hit with the hammer) but it is all working as intended and i now have no bearing noise.

    this was done last weekend btw.

    the only problem i have is i have over greased and now the ABS rotor is basically clogged with grease so the sensor is throwing a fault disabling the abs. no problems, knuckles back off tomorrow and a clean she should be fine.

    there is something that is bugging me however, there is a part that goes in after the abs rotor part no 40264 as shown in this image

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    but it isn't shown in the FSM and nissan parts zone (nice website i just found btw) doesn't actually give me a description.

    [​IMG]


    i do have a " l shaped type seal rubber thingy" (best description i can think of) in there and i am hoping someone with FAST can double check this for me and provide some details.

    Special thanks to Rob Sidaway for his facebook tech help on Sunday morning and the grease seal info. researching grease seals and i found the existing ones were actually the wrong size.. go figure.
     

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