Power Range(r)

Discussion in 'Non Technical' started by waynoz, Jun 22, 2014.

  1. SRB-2NV

    SRB-2NV #TEAMROB

    Never had that problem in any ZX i've driven, NA or TT. You need to launch harder.
     
  2. rollin

    rollin First 9

    zx's are known for axel tramp. especially when trying to limit wheelspin
     
  3. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC



    I've never experienced it in stock form or modified


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  4. East Coast Z

    East Coast Z Well-Known Member

    Your motor is cactus!

    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the use by date on your engine appears to have arrived.
    The standard compression on a healthy Twin Turbo is 171PSI.:D
    The minimum acceptable pressure is 128PSI.:(
    You have 120PSI!:eek:
    The work you need to do is an engine rebuild, most of your boost & fuel is going into your oil pan past the piston rings or through leaking valves.
     
  5. SRB-2NV

    SRB-2NV #TEAMROB

    Launching a bit harder to overcome the tramp and getting a bit of wheelspin works a lot better than giving it less gas to try and stop wheelspin. Emiles hks2530 zed (now jamies) use to tramp but when I launched it at 5krpm it spun slightly but took off beautifully.
     
  6. ZX1990

    ZX1990 2+2 TT Manual

    Yup - I struggle big time with axle tramp if I'm not sideways....

    Tried that and broke a half shaft due to the axle tramp! :eek:

    But on the response discussion - I run auto cams, with manual turbos with an NA rear conversion - playing in the wet the other morning (on a private road of course) flooring it at 1500rpm in 3rd gear results in wheelspin at about 2100rpm - thats with fairly decent 285's on the back, doing the same from 1500rpm in 4th - spins the rears at 2500rpm... Pretty impressive response from a turbo motor. 2100rpm is about 8psi - 2500 I'm hitting about 12psi...
     
  7. waynoz

    waynoz New Member

    No, its ok. I put in some of that oil additive that improves compression so i'm pretty sure my comp is at 9000 now :)



    but yes, I think this is the sad reality of my situation.

    moral of the story,
    If you are going to spend over 7k doing a TT swap.
    Comp test the engine you are putting in first.


    I would love to rebuild it and the gearbox. the next 10k i get, will be going straight into doing just that. :(

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    Last edited: Jun 24, 2014
  8. rollin

    rollin First 9

    you have to actually drive the car to experience it ;)
     
  9. rollin

    rollin First 9

    yeah the easy way is to give it a bunch more throttle but for people who drive on the street and want to be able to take off briskly, we dont want to blazing the tyres every time to avoid axel tramp.

    Its not a driver issue, its windup in the links controlling fore and aft movement, combined with shocks struggling to control the rebound . Cars with solid bushed rear ends wont suffer, and coil overs or mega stiff suspension will mask the issue.

    Its a compromise like everything on cars i guess, i hate driving rose jointed and coil overed cars on the street but it would eliminate axel tramp.

    For now i have stiffened my konis up enough to remove 90% of it
     
  10. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

    14 years with the Z is enough driving I think :p


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  11. rollin

    rollin First 9

    lol

    on a serious note, is yours all solid bushed at the back now ?
     
  12. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

    yes except for diff bushes

    but I've had stock suspension
    then bisltein shocks and pedders springs with a few adjustable arms
    now race setup

    Cars never tramped ,wet or dry..:confused:


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  13. munted

    munted New Member

    Damn man.
    Woulda thought 7k included a rebuild

    You should look at a rebuild kit if you can afford it hey. Think there was a z1 kit for sale cheap ish recently. Get some help on the pull. It wouldn't be too painful.

    Will def make you enjoi the zed, mayhaps a few new pair of undies will be needed afters :D
     
  14. East Coast Z

    East Coast Z Well-Known Member

    Perhaps the thing to do is give it another compression check at operating temperature with a fully charged battery.
    Note the initial pressures & then retest after putting about a tablespoon of engine oil in the cylinder.
    If the pressure increases, the piston rings are worn or damaged, no change, or very little change in pressure would indicate valve issues.
     
  15. Mr G

    Mr G Active Member

    You don't need to have a shovel-full of hp to feel the torque..... I've always enjoyed the response in my TT (stock ECU and internals), doesn't make big numbers on the dyno but those who have driven it, including Niall (rollin) and Karl (90TTZ) say that it has a good smooth power delivery through the range, which is what you want for a street car.

    Agree with East Coast Z regarding your compression numbers, should be getting a professional to look closely at the condition of your engine.
     
  16. waynoz

    waynoz New Member


    Alas, no. it still has power in some places, and definately torque, so if it can do a ton better than what it is, then I am kind of worried :/
    I've already started looking at kits.
    ring's are one thing, but of course there's going to be a lot of other stuff needed.
    one Z1 kit was a full rebuild kit for about 1500, not sure if it included pistons though. but if I'm going that far, I midaswell do pistons.



    I'll definitely be looking into doing this.



    well I don't have power in the low end that is for sure. but as long as the revs are up, I'm still getting some reasonable power output. not amazeballs, but it's not bad.
     
  17. Bob Lloyd-Jones

    Bob Lloyd-Jones Oldreverbob

    :D Stickier the tyres are the harder it is to launch briskly.:br:
     
  18. waynoz

    waynoz New Member

    so what your really saying is maybe my tyres are too hell sticky so that my engine of supreme horsepowerness just can't deal with the adhesion?
     

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