Problems with 362rwkw forged engine

You did see the issue in person at ASR. your "memory doesn't serve you well at times" as you say.
Boost was reduced at MRC with the vipec because the gt28r turbos were maxed by your tunes and was stated by mark that I was getting irregular boost pressures because 28r wastgate actuators weren't designed for 21psi what you had them set to max and was reduced to an un known psi Recomended by Mark for a more of a refined tune with vipec for reliability. as I said above I just want it to run 100% with no idle issues no missfire and once car ran properly for a good period of time I planed to up grade turbo to 2871s. I never asked him to push it for more power as you know mark he wouldn't do that even if I asked he only does a safe tune. other than what I would get from manual convertion and twin air filters he said you couldn't push it any further than you UAS pushed it.

I know you talk to Andrew & Mark you said that to me when I stated I was going to take you to department fair trading, as if to say they will back you up rather then help me by telling the truth. I'm not sure mark and Andrew would do that but I was a nobody just another customer. Where John can help them with parts and anything else he dose and i do know they don't want to be on bad turms with you as they said to me and I know they didn't want to get involved.
So i was all on my own!
Don't worry I get it.

 

Q1 UAS re machined the heads correctly using new oem valves as they were nicked from porting previously. used the re grind cams from sure cam sorry i forgot to send the spec sheet with motor i have it hear in my hand. didn't have money to up grade them at the time to jwt r4 cams as I really wanted to but worked correctly and John couldn't fault them but did suggest changing them because there a ? where jwt are proven but I don't believe they are an issue.
Q2 original block was painted prior but UAS supplied block was painted by UAS with me supplying paint from body shop.
Q3 NO one has touched the internal of this motor other than UAS.
-ASR only did manual convertion and changed out the old with new Aaiv valves, airregulator, CAS, tps, split fire coils and all new pcv hose kit also from z1 he had only changed accessories
-MRC changed computer and tuned it
-My self and a local mechanic removed it put it on a pallet ready to ship to Texas to re- build it because shipping importing coasts to USA were more expansive than starting from scratch. Instead 2yrs later I sold it to you on that same pallet from 2yrs ago after removing my Aaiv, air regulator and twin plate clutch/flywheel.

 

Engine number John? or it will Be a shut fight can you supply that to Martin? Or you can refund me the core charge and I will pass that refund on to Martin.

 

Andrew and Mark are very honest and would Never do what you are implying, I will check records and advise.

 

What I dont understand is that UAS, MRC& ASR confirmed that you had a head gasket leak with coolant found on No3 cyl spark plug, causing the misfire But you didnt let them fix this? After ALL the money you spent on this upgrade I cant believe that you didnt have it repaired in five years, yet you spent a heap of extra cash on a heap of parts from Z1 Motorsports that does doesnt fix a leaking head gasket.
When I dismantled the engine there was no ( ABSOLUTELY ZERO) evidence that there was a head gasket leak, ALL six cylinders had the same amount of soot and gums caused IMHO by running excessively rich.
There is a lot of evidence that these cylinder heads were removed, gaskets replaced and had very little running since that happened. dont mean 5000KLMs I mean maybe a few hours, like two!
How do I know that? I have a race car that I take the engine apart on a regular basis, anyone that does this has a good idea on how long it has been since it was last done. It certainly wasnt five odd years or 5000klms ago.
I am not trying to get any refund (as long as I get a certified engine#) but please dont bring the reputations of UAS, MRC or ASR into question over the condition of this motor at the present time.
You may have had an issue with a leaking head gasket in the early days after the rebuild, I am stating what the condition of this motor is at this time.

Anyway too much forum space wasted on this, just get a certified Engine No for me

 

Honnesty is, the no 1 requirement to work for me, which both did.. I will check records and advise.

 

Martin I don't know why you won't to rub my face in the mud when all I have done is be upfront and honest with you from the begining. trying my hardest to fight this out taking away from my family and 14month old daughter with my head in my iPhone write all this rubbish defending my self were I'm the real victim in all this just to get your engine number! For you I don't think you realize but I'm trying to help ya mate called ya 3 times tonight with no answer I'm not a cheat I don't scame ppl. it is unbelievable that a shop with the reputation they have has done this work. But I assure you Martin what I say is 100% true.
John refused to contribute to fixing the issue and as I know from experience you take it there to fix an issue and you get a bill in the thousands even when its should be under warranty. And I'd be damed if I was going to give him any more of my very hard eared money.
I wish Ben did build my motor I'm sure we wouldn't be hear today.
The parts I bought from z1 were to fix the issues after replacing all those accessories and manual conversion while we were at it as we needed to remove gearbox to fit knock sensor in it's right location.
Installed vipec and only right at the end of replacing every thing we found that the problem was inside motor.
"Felt like shooting my self back then"
I think I have answered all your questions regarding the motor and it's past but now I have better things to do like bath my daughter and put her to sleep. I will call you tomoro on my lunch break if you don't answer I won't call you again you can call me. I've spent far to much of my time trying to help you when you don't believe or question what I'm saying.

 

Interesting ...

If, indeed, it is illegal to release a rebuilt motor without an engine number then the question has to be answered as to how this rebuild came out of UAS without an engine number .. ????

 

How many people have had the cops check for an engine number before?

 

Your question is irrelevant to the thread and to the issue ....

Read the thread where a couple have mentioned that it is illegal NOT to have the engine number stamped for a number of reasons ... if this is correct, it then becomes a serious issue as why/how the rebuild emerged from UAS without the legally required engine number.

 

OMG - This story really has become a whole lot sadder after the lengthy response. Sad story the whole lot of this! I really feel for both the buyer and seller - the amount of money spent into this motor is horrific.

Regardless some things need to be raised given some posts:

Fair trading is just hot air - Fair trading will take large corporations to the courts where the tax payers dollar can be justified but does not deal with smaller businesses or smaller matters. So fair trading at the end of the day means nothing more than a dog with no teeth and ultimately, all fair trading can do is refer the matter to the courts where the lawyers win and everyone else loses.

The appropriate action to do when small businesses dont play the game, is to publicly name and shame them until they comply, but in doing so one must make sure that everything stated is true and can be proven or defamation, slander and libel is bound to follow. Most businesses are severely affected by reputation and will seek solutions to prevent such shame being brought to the publics attention as the cost can be greater than the solution. So I can see why this issue has been raised in this forum.

The law that states there must be an engine number is an RTA law that applies to having the vehicle passed in inspection. There is no crimnal code law that applies to a number being on a motor as such.

The law that states it is illegal to sell a engine without an engine number applies to businesses under fair trading and does not include private sales.

Regardless - responsibility for the engine number under a private sales remains caveat emptor (buyer beware). i.e buying a motor without an engine number is the buyers responsibility not the sellers, whether a business did the wrong thing or not prior to the sale.

There is no legal obligation for the seller to help the buyer out by communicating to the business involved at the centre of this dispute. So take it easy on him as well or he might be just stop helping altogether, which would/could make things harder.

I really hope this gets resolved for both you victims (buyer and seller) and the business involved comes to the party.

For the rest of us - caveat emptor (once again)

Sincere Regards all

 

Jamie just because you havnt heard of cops checking for engine number, doesnt mean it hasnt happened. I know of a handful of people that has happened to & it was a massive hassle & very expensive. They wernt zeds, but either way it does happen. Baz highlighted a genuine issue.

Sure a lot of us, including myself have off-road/illegal modifications & we have that on the zed knowing that they are. However when it comes to an engine number, its not a modification & is a necessity in getting the car registered or roadworthy, especially if Martin is planning on using it on a track. Plus Martin/Danny didnt know the engine number at all, so its not like they were withholding that information. So the best thing would be to let them sort it out & if anybody has anything that can help the situation post here/pm, otherwise just read & not post as its not helping nobody with useless questions & attacks

Abraham

 

Hey Abz,

I'm not saying it doesn't happen - hence why I asked a genuine question of how often it does happen. It wasn't a rhetorical question.

I'm not questioning the fact that its a requirement, just curious as to what the penalties are and how strict they actually are on enforcing the rule.

 

Jamie my engine number was checked at my last pink slip. Supposedly this should be common practice.

 

I've alwayd hhad eninge numbers checked. But coz I'm a good bloke I provide a photo or have it written down as all the cars I buy like to hide the engine number in some awkward place where you need eyes on stalks to see them!

 

Danny and Martin we will sort it out the engine number. Danny you are obviously frustrated and confused. No one has lied or taken advantage of you. I never lie to anyone? You will never catch me out there and I don't appreciate being called a liar.

Your tranny was reconditioned and working fine when you removed it, right? You sell it to someone in Melbourne who fits it and apparently no good. Was it fitted by a mechanic, did they properly flush the lines and cooler or replacing the cooler, otherwise crap from the old worn or failed tranny goes through the new tranny. It was well out of warranty on time also. It may have been worn from the power you had and issues with the car.

Your engine did not have a head gasket problem until it was at MRC after fitting Vipec and running high boost, years after it left here. Why did it have all these sensors and Nistune, manual conversion and all this stuff and then Vipec and more thrown at it if it had a known head gasket problem? It didn't, just to make sure today I called Andrew who confirmed this.

 

Okay John, thanks for helping with the engine number issue
John and Danny, Lets just sort this issue out using PMs or anything but the forum.
Theres nothing further to be gained for anyone
Thanks to all forum members for their support, not just of me but their friends and other members of this great club.

 

At the end of the day i , like many others on here hope this gets sorted out and that, all parties involved reputations are kept intact .

We all have too remember one thing we are all here because of our love of the Zed, and the only reason many of us keep our cars on the roads are because we all HELP one another out. We all have differing opinions and personalities, which is a good thing as it means we are unique like our cars, but lets keep the name calling and innuendo and chest beating egos in check, and allow Martin, Danny and John to sort this out peacefully and professionally and like the gentlemen we all know them too be.