Problems with 362rwkw forged engine

Shit man the whole time I was reading that my head was like $$$..... Yep more $$$ and more $$$. That really sucks man. Hope you get a good one with eps.

 

Yes Danny I can sort out all of the issues with the help of forum members except the engine #

You sort a certified Engine# and I will fix up everything else

You can be as furious as you wish but you have my money and I have a poor example of an engine with NO Engine#. Cannot be legally use on public roads or the race track.

Reason! Some people steal engines (especially high performance) and remove Engine# so they cant be traced.

 

I get the feeling this saga is far from over for you.

 

Lots of times when the block is skimmed. The engine number is milled off seeing its on the same plane as the block top. Its supposed to be stamped back on afterward. I suggest that just hasn't been done. Probably accidentally.

 

Damn that was painful to follow but sorry to hear about the problems. It's a shame nothing ever goes to plan, especially when big money is involved.

 

Mr0300,

I'm exhausted after trying to read/interpret that saga(but I have just one question).
Did you impart any of this information to Martin prior to selling him this engine(because if you did, he must be nuts to have proceeded with the purchase)????
Nuff said!!

 

Exactly. The engine was built by Ben who worked for UAS for a total of ten years. He is obviously very experienced and thorough. He now works at MRC who I talk to regularly. It just doesn't seem possible especially not using locating dowells, and damaging threads. The studs can unwind when removing the n uts.
There were many issues with the engine and installation, from previous workshop that went out of business. Including oversized and uneven bores and custom intakes that didn't bolt up properly.

 

I never laughed at you Danny. I only tried to help you with your car.
What was with the stalling and misfire, did that get resolved Danny?
There were no knock sensors on the motor as it was using Microtech.

 

Martin I'm glade you have the support of forum members because when ever I said anything do with my situation with issues with motor or UAS all the troll UAS ass kissers came out defending them and flamed me for venting it publicly on the forum when it was a last resort option to help UAS fix the issues Reason why you very rarely see activity from me on forum anymore.*
all I wanted was a perfectly running motor that's what i more than payed for you know how many times I've been toed to Firstly to my house then to UAS at $150 each time back in those days car spent 80% of it's time siting out front of UAS.
I've Brocken down on botany rd, Oxford st 10pm Saturday night in the city, on the way to a wedding all the worst possible times. With issues mostly to do with tune, knock sencors engine cuts out when getting to hot in traffic. The way the resolved that was removing knock sensors and o2,*
with nistune and no knock or o2 sensors I could some what enjoy the car till that hesitation at hi rpm became a missfire then after taking car back a few time for that I gave up on UAS and I was Recomended to see Andrew at ASR.*

Engine number# martin you could use my original engine # as it's more likely is that motor, John probably wanted to charge me a core charge for a block 'easy money' and pretended he trow it out but then used it that's why he couldn't get me a # for it.
At the end of the day I do have your money but you still got a bargain and I didn't miss lead you in any way.*
That is a resolution to an engine number issue.

 

The miss fire was number 3 piston leaking coolant throw head gasket failing that spark plug don't act dumb you know more than well what the issue is with the miss fire you went to ASR to see for your self.
Ben did not build this motor I believe it was a guy you had working there for a short period of time can't remember his name he had Datsun 1200 ute he was building at the time think his name was chris.
Ben would shed some light on that if you don't tell him what to say.
No one else touched the internal of this motor other than UAS hands full stop.

"chili" UAS number 1 fan. yes Martin was aware of the problem with the motor and found more I was unaware of. he was fully informed with my dealings with UAS except the engine number# because I was made to think it wasn't an issue or illegal from an ex police officer John from UAS it's not till now that Martin brought to my knowledge that it is illegal to sell or use a engine with out a number. Ive been up front and honest with Martin the whole time.

 

Honestly don't know how these people **** up engine builds this bad. Do they just have really low iq or don't give a ****? there aint that much to it.

 

Yes this was the case but you removed engine discarded block and started with a block you supplied because old block was overbored 60th over recomendations and you couldn't get it sleeved so you throw that block away before I could see for my self and charged be a core charge for the supply of a new block am I wrong? or do you owe me that core charge back? or you supplied me with a motor with out a number which is illegal? Take your pick.

You removed knock and o2 sensors as they were leaving me stranded probably because they were doing there job informing ecu to shut down because it was picking up the underlining problems with the motor. You even stated that "you dont need them" and your "race car didn't have them".

 

OK, so now we all know that. Who is taking responsibility for the engine number being deleted and not restamped back on? The shop that forgot to check this was necessary/done should be doing that, right? I would want a signed document (letterhead) to state that the newly stamped engine number is clear title, etc. Is that unreasonable to expect? By following through with that, the shop should benefit by having the correct process stamped into their standard procedure. By pointing out their mistake and they fix it, makes them a better shop.

 

Strictly speaking you don't need knock or O2 sensors to have a well performing engine, I didn't put them on mine. Though I did have a reasonable idea of what I was doing :rofl:

O2 and knock will NOT make a engine 'shut down', that would be other controls from the ECU. Microtech's are not a sophisticated piece of technology, and Nistune won't care if you have them or not provided it is tuned correctly.

 

I wouldnt know how to build let alone know how an engine run back then. thats why i left it to the 300zx specialist as they say. I also had a ruzic engineering monitor thing that they had difficulty installing. that when car stalled it would beep hi pitched with led lights saying no oil press because key was in start position motor was off I was told.

 

Clarification

Sad story for both Martin and Danny and I sympathize with them both, as you know I have my own issues with said workshop, but that is a story for another day,
Danny, Just to clarify the gearbox issue, UAS never had anything to do with my gearbox, neither build or sell,
I had the gearbox built by Allstates Automotive Transmissions in Parramatta at a cost of 3k, it was later sold by me to Erik (ed300zx) in QLD, who on sold it to Heavytrev, with as far as I know no issues, (shouldn't have been as it was a good box)
All of this was back in 2008.
Good luck to you both in resolving the issues at hand.

 

I will check (when I get a chance on Monday), the job cards and invoices. It will take a while going through archives . It makes more sense if it was Chris because he was not as experienced as Ben but I still think it was Ben who worked on your engine as he did all the engine rebuilds.
Your block was throw away as it was oversized and also from memory the crank and bearings had issues.
We didn't remove your knock sensor as stated. We built the engine to use Microtech which at the time was the only viable option available with map sensor.
I think you are a bit muddled up with technical issues. Also you probably don't know I talk and see Andrew at the ASR and the boys at MRC on a regular basis. We help each other with parts and advice. I don't recall going to ASR to look at any heads. Mark however , told me , when it was last at MRC for tuning after the computer was changed, that he found an issue with the wiring in the car causing it to misfire and stall which he fixed. He said it was then running fine on the Dyno until he turned the boost up at your request , higher than he recommended. What computer does it have now?

 

I will check (when I get a chance on Monday), the job cards and invoices. It will take a while going through archives . It makes more sense if it was Chris because he was not as experienced as Ben but I still think it was Ben who worked on your engine as he did all the engine rebuilds.
Your block was throw away as it was oversized and also from memory the crank and bearings had issues.
We didn't remove your knock sensor as stated. We built the engine to use Microtech which at the time was the only viable option available with map sensor.
I think you are a bit muddled up with technical issues. Also you probably don't know I talk and see Andrew at the ASR and the boys at MRC on a regular basis. We help each other with parts and advice. I don't recall going to ASR to look at any heads. Mark however , told me , when it was last at MRC for tuning after the computer (Vipec? Or nistune?) was changed, that he found an issue with the wiring in the car causing it to misfire and stall which he fixed. He said it was then running fine on the Dyno until he turned the boost up at your request , higher than he recommended. What computer does it have now?

 

A couple of questions Danny
Were these your cylinder heads from your old engine that were worked and used on the UAS rebuild?

Did you paint the engine block prior to UAS fitting it?

Has the engine been out of the car since UAS fitted it

 

This is exactly what I have asked for "a certified Engine No" written on a signed document (Letterhead) stating newly stamped engine no has clear title.