Hmm....................................Holden 3.8L in a Z32???

I often thought this engine would be a really worthy alternative to the old stock iron VG clobber. Light years ahead of a prehistoric Buick sourced V6
Mostly aluminium so cant be any heavier, good power output even if at higher rpm.

Being a much more recent engine, no issues with compliancing since the engine being fitted must be at least the same year or younger than the car its going into.
have to be a zillion of them laying around at the wreckers.

However, by all accounts, they are again quite a tall motor most likely requiring a custom sump/x-member or both.
Cam chain stretch as noted above and also very prone to sludging/coking up internals if not regularly serviced with premuim oils.
This I have seen for myself. The condition of the engine was not believeable considering its relatively young age and service history. Apparently this is not uncommon tho which is a little disturbing.

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You mean this is a quad came with a chain?

 

That's a later one isn't it - the Direct injection (SIDI) version.

The 3.6 litre Alloytech high output engines started in the VZ, and carried through to the VE. Yes, they are all quad cams with chains. The "High Output" versions of these engines have variable inlet and exhaust cam timing. Some early 2006 versions had a timing chain set that apparently wasn't strong enough, and they stretched prematurely. The stretching was minor, but the engine ECU monitors timing chain stretch, and logs it as a fault.

Nice motor. I have one that is just about to clock up 250,000 km. Still runs very well, still powerfiul and also economical.

 

Yes

I don't think either 3.8 or 3.6 sump will fit unless you remove sway bar. Both sumps are crap anyway. Gravity fed cast over 50% 3.6 sump fail initial pressure test, by eye, underwater and sent for impreg. Junk.

 

Would you mind correcting the stuff you wrote above so I can understand it?

I am liking your idea of fitting a 3.6 quad cam General into your zed.
Hopefully you will put the 6 speed auto and carry over the vehicle stability traction control too. Hehehe. I'll buy it off you in 12 months after it has depreciated like zeds do.

 

Dry sump may help fit in 300.

This one here is GMC 6 bolts down the side. GMH has 7. May be a simple matter of re-drilling I don't know??? Surely there are dry sumps around for the GMH 3.8 V6s. ===>
http://www.drysump.com/pan26.htm

 

Seriously???

I do not think the GMH 3.8 or 3.6L V6 oil pan will fit into the Z32 unless you remove the sway bar.

Both oil pans are crap, gravity fed cast.

Over 50% of the Gen III 3.6L sump failed initial pressure testing.

Which I think, was done by eye, underwater, allowing for human error.

Those failing pressure test were then sent for impregnation to rectify short casting.

Junk!

 

Zed swaybar runs on the front of the crossmember. That looks like a rear sump to me. Should fit with a cut and shut on the sump. If you are good with a TIG welder it wouldn't be too hard.

 

For the cost of doing this you could swap in a TT motor or work the NA if you are a P plater.

 

That is the GMH Series II 3.8L V6

 

Dude. Wiki reckons VG30DE 222 hp 268 Nm & Series II 3.8L 205 hp 312 Nm.

6 of one and 1/2 doz of other.

Now.

I can walk around corner and buy several 3.8L for <$300 each.

 

Please walk around the other corner and get the 3.6 sidi & 6 speeder

 

Let me correct you. We are talking about TT motor right??

Wiki reckons VG30DETT 300hp and 384 Nm & Series II 3.8L 205 hp 312 Nm.

So just walk around, I think.

 

We have a VE SS 6ltr and I reckon my stock TT shits on it ... Just saying

 

I was quoting NA.

This does not surprise me. AFAIK most TTs will shit on just about anything.

You guys do not have to prove this to me.

This was not the point of my OP.

 

Agreed. Well kept TT Z can run faster than the 6.2 SS. (depends on driver as well)

Walked a Series III R8 the other day with my Z bumped to 12PSI......




Honestly I hate holden engines in general. If you like the Z shell and you like the commodore motor... it's your money..

 

Alloy tech V6 is a torque less hunk of crap.

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Seems to do OK in carting around my 1.8 tonne beastie, with family and boot full of gear on board. Oh, and it does it with 250,000 km under its belt too. Not bad for a torqueless hunk of crap

 

I thought there would be a tow limit well below 1 tonne for that engine... lol