PentRoof Z32

2 paged in and we still dont have 100% confirmation it is still running 700rwhp+ with td06's.
it can be worth the moeny he's asking if te engine still have everything pentroof threw at it.

i find it hard to believe yella doesn't know what's inside the engine, if you want 3x as much as a normal zed you need to prove to us whats in it, otherwise you'll never get even close to the asking price.

 

Imho... you would be either looking to buy this zed to (1) own a piece of zed history, (2) as betting on it being a future investment, or (3) as a performance vehicle...
Personally if it is the later than shifter's old burgundy car is probably better value as it is a lot newer build. this car may or may not still have the good stuff until she gets popped open.... and that would be the risk if you bought her.

Apologies typing without being able to see the screen on my phone.

 

So is a normal zed worth 7K ?? What is NORMAL Travis?

7K will get you a clapped out POS that you will have to spend 10K+ on.

A running wreck at Pickles auctions is worth 3k.

Its worth 20k+ if you dont have to spend any money on it.

You just have to find the right buyer. That wont be an 18-25 year old with no money

 

My thoughts on its worth:

- if it was sold as the 'Pentroof Z' and fully complete / pentroof original, it would fetch $30-35K for the right buyer. In another 10 years in the same complete and excellent condition state I could see it going for $50K+.

- in its current excellent state I reckon it would be worth $25-30K for a collector, $22-25K for someone that's not concerned with it's heritage.

Those prices are selling it for what I think it is worth in those conditions, if he wants to sell it in the current market to someone banking on those market figures that doesn't care about it's heritage, he will have a tough time getting any more than $16-20K, maybe even lower .

For a car like this, if your in a position to do so, I say stuff the market...he knows it's heritage and what it's value is and what it is worth to him and simply needs to find the right buyer in a collector / enthusiast sector of the market that will appreciate it for what it is and knows it's worth in motoring history and the money that has been thrown at it even from a build / performance point of view.

Cheers,

Craig

PS...I've got a feeling Yella will not post in here again due to not liking what he is hearing from a lot of people, so the subject probably is dead with no feedback from the OP on any of the responses, whether they be for or against the basis of his enquiry.

 

Good to know the car is still intact, I think the rear bar/exhaust is the best looking/ most agressive rear I have seen on a Z wait till the car is a classic at least. The correct people wont forget where it came from

 

Thanks Eviltwin, Tektrader, Steven for your positive comments. I didn't mean to open a hornet's nest, but it's sure been entertaining.

Mafi-zed seems to focus on the mechanicals - sums a list of the parts and arrives at a value. Fair enough. That's how he views the world.

Others can see the car for what it is - a little piece of Z history.

I tried in vain for many months to get PentRoof to tell me about the car. They ignored my letters and e-mails. I tried Fuzzy at Ooparts until he tired of me. I bought some outrageously priced Pentroof decals from him in an attempt at keeping him interested. He said he asked them on my behalf for the entire history of the car and all they said was that it was the car they prepared as their own promotional vehicle. Unless I wanted to buy something worthwhile from him he no longer wanted to help.

I guess in the final analysis, unless some other sentimental fool like myself is interested in the car for its early history, loves occasionally driving it and generally treasures it, then its only value is the sum total of its parts.

For me, I don't care if it still has TD06S or TD09s. Who knows how many engines they hand-grenaded and what spec it finally had when they sold it off, threw it out because it had done its job, replaced by a (less powerful) orange 2+2. I don't care. The fact is it sits in my garage and I love it.

This little exercise has convinced me to keep it, because few others out there would be worthy to be its future custodians.

I will now retire back into my shell. Goodnight and goodluck.

 

I'll also just quickly point out that if you were running a 700+rwhp car, you'd certainly know about it! Even if on super low boost to the point where you're just running on actuator pressure on those TD06's would be heads and tails above smaller turbos! (not to mention the lag difference over smaller turbos)

...my point for mentioning this, is directly related to the original question asked in this thread about pricing. Because if it does NOT in fact have the original TD06 turbos pushing 700+rwhp, then what have they replaced them with? what else has been stripped off this Zed? Opens a can of worms really, and not one that favours an original Pentroof release price ticket.

...and one more thing the OP mentioned in a post to R31 Gags about what a "real Zed enthusiast" would know. Well, IMHO a "real Zed enthusiast" would know what he has under his bonnet.

 

Good point Benny, how can we possibly answer and help out in any confidence with Yella's query when he can't even give us straight answers on something that would make a huge impact on the car's value?

This thread then is really quite useless at this point, except for convincing Yella to keep it . Any estimated figures so far, including my own, are pure conjecture .

Cheers,

Craig

 

I think you would know if it had 700rwhp without a dyno

and you would know if it was the real thing .(not saying its not)

I owned a promotional vk brock race car with the mobil 05 graphics ,cage,interior stripped etc ..
but obviously didnt have the performance running gear.
It Looked the goods

 

I'm interested in throwing it in a shed as an "investment".
Clear all these issues and give me a price and you might have a buyer.

 

oh so thats how i look at the world? has nothing to do with the fact that your advertising pentroof's car so i'd like to know if it still has the original engine they tuned?

you said parts were stolen and removed, how is any potential buyer supposed to know if the turbos went removed if you cant tell us.
if the pentroof goodies are missing from the engine, then truthfully you only have half the car.

 

If you intentend to keep any car as an investment whatever you do don't just stick it in a shed. The car will depreciate against similar examples if it not maintained and driven. I know a guy who has an original A9X race spec and it would be worth over 100k. But he hasn't even turned it over for 10 years, prob woth 20k now, all the rubbers would be stuff everything siezed, etc, etc. Keep using it but try and keep the mileage low.

 

Yeah. I gotta agree with most of this and none of this is meant to offend.

I reckon your car looks good but in terms of market value (rather than its great emotional or aesthetic appeal) it isn't anything special compared to many other enhanced Zs out there. Just 'cause PentRoof did the work doesn't mean that it's going to increase the value that much more.

You've gotta realise that most of the "enhancements" were done 10 years ago and some of it may be starting to look tired. The stereo is a perfect example. Who cares if you have an Alpine system if it's 11 years old and doesn't play MP3?

The rest of the car has parts on it that are now 20 years old and you haven't given us the service history or condition of the engine. That's what I would be considering when buying it. What do I need to replace, rebuild, rewire etc?? Not PentRoof.

To be honest a Z that is close to stock may be more attractive for many people. At least you have a clear canvas to work on if you were going to mod it.

Have you tried to get your Queensland safety certificate yet? Unless you have a mate that can do it, good luck with that monster tacho, bonnet pins and a-pillar gauges.....

But hey - there's a sucker born every minute. Put it up for the price that you're after and see if anyone bites. You might get someone with more money than sense to pay for what I would believe is market value (around $12,500)

 

Even half a car is a pritty nice car =)

Even half a car is a pritty nice car

 

I think I may be a bit loose in my description of the storage idea.
Anyone that knows me and my love affair with the zed will know that I'd look after that baby. I'd even give it a massage once a week if that would help.
But your spot on, they fall to bits and rot if left alone, a bit like myself.

 

yep, a lap around the block every few weeks, or they occasional cruise along with regular wash waxing and polishing should keep it low in the k's, but high in the condition stakes.....

 

i like this car, its very nice! but i dont think that this is the 700rwhp version? they had a few more Pent-Roof Z's the yellow one is just a base model with some add ons and not major work.. they had a black or blue Z which had 700rwhp, i remember reading this somewhere but it was a long time ago so i could be wrong..

anyway good luck with the sale! its deffinately a looker! looks awesome even though its not red

 

If you watch the video I posted, it shows the specs. The yellow Z in question (according to vid) makes 380ps (ps is very close to hp).

The black Z at the end of the clip has 520ps.