why do zeds slide out

Discussion in 'Technical' started by ed300zx, Jul 14, 2007.

  1. ed300zx

    ed300zx Active Member

    i was just wondering why is it...in particular the z32....slides out so easy...what is it in the design that does this to our cars when in the wet????
     
  2. ryanlok15

    ryanlok15 red zedder

    i thought it was due to the low centre of gravity, lsd (allowing both wheels to spin) and the suspension set up (i think it was t-bone suspension, correct me if im wrong)...i think these are the three major reasons why the cars are easily flickable:p...hope that helps:D
     
  3. Cra-Z-Boy

    Cra-Z-Boy no nissan at all :(

    Its more like the stock rear camber setup isnt so great :)D oh and the sheer power of the 300:D )
     
  4. cherryZ

    cherryZ Truth Addict

    Driver Error

    :rolleyes: :D :p
     
  5. BADZX

    BADZX Grumpy old fart


    X2 :D

    I've changed my rear camber angle for maximum grip.....



    Didnt help that much but it did improve over the std setup.

    I also went for 9" rims on the back with a wide tyre to suit and that made a bigger improvement overall in the dry but its a 'nervous wreck' in the wet !!
    :eek:

    It 'aquaplanes' something cronic on really wet roads but hell its fun spinning up the rear wheels beside a V8 or some other ricer @ 100kph+......... they keep turning off onto another road for some reason:D

    Chickens
    ;)
     
  6. MikeH

    MikeH smeg

    I haven't found that actually... unlike my old 6 cylinder cortina that did 360's before you know you've lost grip, I find the Z quite predictable and easy to recover.. so far :)
     
  7. SedatZX

    SedatZX Tyranus

    MMmm i always thought it was because of the light rear end and powerfull engine!
     
  8. CHILI

    CHILI Indestructable Target

    The very poorly designed apparatus attached to the Steering Wheel. Totally incapable of doing the required job.:eek::rolleyes::zlove:

    BTW, in 6+ years of ownership. my Zed has "hung the tail" in the wet twice, both times easily corrected, and both times MY FAULT.:eek:
    Learn to drive!:p:p

     
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2007
  9. ed300zx

    ed300zx Active Member

    bit of a hoon are you chili...tisk tisk...lol but even the best driver would say the z32 in particular does tend to wonder in the wet more so than other cars...so in this case....the 'very poorly designed apparatus attached to the Steering Wheel' only plays a minor part as to the tail going walk about when turning in the wet :eek: ....by no means does this mean accelarate in the wet while in a corner...thats just stupid....whether it be the z32 or another car...so then back to the origional question....:D

    'what is it in the design that does this to our cars when in the wet????'
     
  10. scump

    scump John Dorian

    how about 2 turbos kicking in at the exact same time at mild-low rpm.

    normal TT cars state they have to much power down low from the small turbo, and its more normal up high, while we got 2 bad boys screaming out loud at around 2500-3000rpm... mm funfun.

    another reason is the evil hicas, if someone doesnt know what it is, funny thing is, they try to correct it! essentially its supposed to assist with handling, but hey, i hate the way it feels especially on the highway, yet to experience it in the wet though, i imagine at high speed with bad tyres itd be enough to give you a shift out.
     
  11. ed300zx

    ed300zx Active Member

    is that why people opt for the hicas lock bar....better handling in those situations????
     
  12. scump

    scump John Dorian

    if you take corner aggressivly at high speed, you and hicas wont get along. alot of people opt the hicas lock bar for track reasons.

    other people just dont like 4ws n want fws back.

    so yeah i suppose some do, not because their purely worried about spinning out, but just the alteration in handling.
     
  13. 260DET

    260DET Active Member

    2 or 2+2? Longer wheelbase of the 2+2 should make it a bit more stable. A lighter rear anti roll bar will help power down in corners, plus see the threads about changing the rear suspension setup for better grip.
     
  14. Baron

    Baron Active Member

    Chili, Chili, Chili, don't you just love being one of the "grumpy old men".:cool:
    The loose nut that holds the wheel is the usual reason:bash:
     
  15. retro zx

    retro zx the retro legend

    Thats right 260DET the 2+2 would be abit more stable at the rear becouse of the longer wheelbase then the 2 seater also another thing thats worth mentioning is the weight distribution the 2 seater has f/r 55:45 as the 2+2 has 53:47 :) i have a 2 seater and im trying to make the car as light as posible but i have removed alot more weight from the rear then the front and that makes my rear spin very easy and also it has affected the handling of my car also :rolleyes:
     
  16. Joe

    Joe Capriciously Crude

    Any issues with that setup so far? :p
     
  17. CHILI

    CHILI Indestructable Target

    On a more serious note, this is where we differ. I have been driving professionally for most of my working life(in a huge variety of both light, and heavy vehicles), and I honestly do not find the Z32 to be strange or unpredictable, but a rather good handling vehicle. A racing car, it is not, but a safe, enjoyable sports vehicle, it definitely is, IMHO.


     
  18. mafi-zed

    mafi-zed the resident hoon

    yeh but come on.. if i plant it in 4th gear while its wet, once it comes on boost it steps out to the right.. its always to the RIGHT!!
    its redonkulous!
     
  19. Scrubber

    Scrubber New Member

    try getting good tyres as it made a huge differance to mine in the wet
     
  20. CHILI

    CHILI Indestructable Target

    I suppose it would be a massive waste of time saying that a skillful driver ALWAYS drives within the prevailing conditions, but I'm saying it anyhow.:p

    Have you noticed that if you "plant it" as you're entering your garage, it generally exits through the back wall "just as it comes on to boost"? Why is this? HICAS maybe?:rolleyes::p:zlove:

     

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