What are the best pads for the track?

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  1. DazzaZ32

    DazzaZ32 Active Member

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    Hi All,
    As the title says took the car out for its first track event and we lost brakes on the second run and put it down to the shitty brake pads as they were an "Unknown Factor of the car"
    So what do you all use? We were doing a rally sprint event so lots of quick straights and very tight corners.
    Cheers
    Dazza
     
  2. Shane001

    Shane001 Well-Known Member

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    Project Mu Club Racer are a good value track pad. Might not be suitable for street though. Check their website and look at operating temps.

    Also make sure you have good fluid, Wilwood EXP600 is very good and you can pick it up for a decent price in Sydney.

    Important to know what the problem actually is, most people incorrectly diagnose this.
    If the pedal is hard but the brakes aren't pulling you up, it's pads.
    If the pedal goes low and needs pumping back up, it's your fluid boiling in the calipers.

    Also a reasonable quality slotted brake rotor is a good idea. RDA or DBA standard slotted rotors are fine for track days. Don't waste your money on DBA4000, they are no better than the standard Street Slotted.
     
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    DazzaZ32 Active Member

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    Thanks for that Shane.
    Just need a set of pads for track days dont mind having to change them as i have to put the Semis on anyways.
    Willwood EXP600 what stores would i get that at im in WA. Rotors are fine. But had hard pedal wouldnt stop then the no pedal wouldnt stop lol
    But hey first track run had to find something out
     
  4. Shane001

    Shane001 Well-Known Member

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    OK, so it sounds like you're overheating the pads AND the fluid lol.

    Not sure where to buy in WA but just ring around, if not the Motul 600 is very similar just a fair bit more expensive. Quality fluid is a must.

    Tip, change to your race pads before you drive to the race track. This gives them time to wear off any material on the rotors from your street pads, just be aware your cold stopping performance may not be as good (though pretty sure the Club Racers will be OK). You can also (carefully on public roads) do a bed in of the pads once you're close to the track, save you having to do it at the track.
     
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    zx299 Well-Known Member

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    Go the Motul fluid Dazza ....... much easier to come by, you can pick it up at any half decent bike shop :cool:
     
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    Pretty sure my fronts are blue stuff (in brembo calipers) and hold up quite well with my non-competition but very aggressive track driving. Rears are A1RM and do alright but I've had them howling at high temperatures so probably wouldn't put them on the front.

    Make sure you ditch the dust shields all round, they're a huge restriction to brake cooling, consider adding some ducts/guides at the front too.
     
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  7. MAX

    MAX Ex Zedder

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    I'm no track junkie but the time I did hit the track was at Queensland race way. Also an na zed, manual no abs. I had standard discs, hoses and fluid and bendix ultimate, all in great condition. I had no fade in three sets of 7 laps.

    Just saying depends on a lot of factors but I found the standard equipment to work fine. I'm sure it can be improved but making sure your master cylinder and hoses are good would be my first check.

    Oh, I also had a chili brace.
     
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    sandeep Active Member

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    Best pads really depends on the type of events and tracks you're doing. Tracks with lots of heavy braking (low speed corners) with short straights will generate higher brake temps than fast flowing tracks.
    I had Project Mu HC+ on mine which were great at the track, but a bit noisy on the street. Also agree with the comments re: brake fluid - Motul RBF600 is good, but expensive and depends how serious you are about track racing. I ran Castrol super dot 4 in mine for a while and it was fine for track racing and much cheaper. I only really did Phillip island though, which is a fast flowing track.
     
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    I have Project Mu HC+ on my TT Z32 and they make no noise at all on the street (or maybe I just can't hear them above the 3" exhaust drone).
    I haven't lost brakes at the track since I changed to a higher boiling point fluid, put on Project Mu HC+ and also added the UAS brake ducts.
     
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