two MAF's

Discussion in 'Non Technical' started by crackermann, Nov 19, 2009.

  1. crackermann

    crackermann New Member

    i just want to confirm that when installing two MAF sensors on a dual intake setup that the second MAF sensor is just wired in parallel with the existing one?

    cheers
     
  2. brisz

    brisz Well-Known Member

  3. MikeZ32

    MikeZ32 das Über member

  4. crackermann

    crackermann New Member

    thanks guys... i had read a couple of time about just splicing them together and didnt think it sounded right!

    i'll just make a summing amplifier up for the 0-5v sensor outputs.

    cheers
     
  5. wooshka

    wooshka New Member

    Thanks

    since i dont have the "thanks" button on my profile as i havent posted enough on the forum, i am thanking you this way instead, hope this doesnt upset the mods, but i am not abusing the system, i just wanted to thank brisz for his info.
     
  6. jschrauwen

    jschrauwen My Fairlady Z

    2nd. Easiest way to do it.




    You're kind of right, nida - sorta. But don't need to do any amplifier mod. Keep it simple.

    Do you have an AFC?
    Do you already have the dual intake components - 2nd MAF, elbows, couplers and second pop charger?
    Basically only 2 ways to go about it. Selin or the AFC.
    If the Selin is too rich for your blood, than you're going to have to spring for an AFC. A good AFC to enable you to do this will cost nearly the same as the Selin anyway.


    As far as wiring goes;
    http://www.twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.aspx?forum=technical&msg_id=939385&forum=technical&dtSearch=0
    http://www.twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.aspx?forum=technical&msg_id=1086713&forum=technical&dtSearch=7

    This is why you either need a Selin of SAFC;
    http://www.twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.aspx?forum=technical&msg_id=1044613&forum=technical&dtSearch=1
     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2009
  7. crackermann

    crackermann New Member

    yeah, i have all the components i need (dont have an AFC)

    i cant see why making up a simple summator wont do the trick.

    Vout = V1+V2, (MAF signal out = the sum of the two MAF signals in) which i bet is the basic function of the selin

    if it doesnt work i'll shell out the 250$ for the selin, i like two have my little projects.

     
  8. Chrispy

    Chrispy Pretentious Upstart

    That's pretty much all the Selin does. The Selin just has the snazy plugs and casing, oh and a option to average the signals too.
     
  9. Chad_

    Chad_ Well-Known Member

    all this is confusing me. why is it made complex.

    isnt the easiest way to install a dual setup is :

    1. 2 mafs (one fake or dead, one perfect working)
    2. 2 pods (one fake/dead maf to one pod, one perfect working to other pod)
    3. go buy 2 90degree bends aluminium etc
    4. get some couplers
    5. install and get your ecu retuned (so you can change the k value etc to half the intake air value)
    6. bobs ur uncle

    ....:confused:
     
  10. WazTTed

    WazTTed Grease Monkey

    1 working maf and 1 fake will leave you with stalling issues.
    i tried everything 2 fix it...
    only thing that did was another 2nd maf!!
     
  11. crackermann

    crackermann New Member

    personally i'd rather use two working MAF's over fudging figures in the ecu, and if i dont like the way the set up runs or one MAF shits itself i just put it back to original, dont have to worry about running around flashing my ecu..

    just my thoughts.
     
  12. Chad_

    Chad_ Well-Known Member

    what i mean is one real maf, and the other just a dummy, and have the connection going to the real maf and just retune the ecu to change the values etc....
     
  13. WazTTed

    WazTTed Grease Monkey

    exactly what i had. a dead maf... try it if u want..
    search tt.net "doolz" "stalling" and "flower pot mod"

    u need dual maf 2 run properly
     
  14. Chad_

    Chad_ Well-Known Member

    so what you mean is dual maf with both maf's hooked up???

    ive seen others who just have one maf connected and the ecu calibrated to compensate valuesss....

    p.s doolz setup is where both banks are linked. we are talking about completle seperate pod intake setups here.
     
  15. WazTTed

    WazTTed Grease Monkey


    ive tried doolz (linked version) and independant dual intake systems with 90 degree bends.. also i have tried with both setups with 1 working maf and 1 fake maf.. and 2 working mafs

    you need 2 working mafs or your car will simply fall on its face coming back to idle..

    oh and yes i had my ecu calibrated...
     
  16. rom-vg30dett

    rom-vg30dett Always Broke

    i've got the doolz intake with one working afm and one dummy one. the ecu's k value is calibrated to suit and it has never been an issue for me.
     
  17. WazTTed

    WazTTed Grease Monkey

    you running a fmic by any chance?
     
  18. rom-vg30dett

    rom-vg30dett Always Broke

    nope, ashspec smic
     
  19. Big_al_TT92ZX

    Big_al_TT92ZX Tempted to own another Z

    Interesting topic and quite relevant to a lot of us planning Dual Intakes. Did anyone ever find out if the Nistune board supports dual intake on the Z32? Selin seems like a good option if it means you have to use an in-between such as the AFC for the Doolz setup.
     
  20. brisz

    brisz Well-Known Member

    A bit unsure if Nistune will do this.

    But there is a utility, dont know how well it works, third post down.

    http://ecu2.forumwise.com/ecu2-thread1821.html
     
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